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Post by orangedw on Mar 28, 2024 22:59:47 GMT -5
Entertaining game. Did not necessarily plan on watching the whole game but they kept me interested.
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Post by upstatesm on Mar 28, 2024 23:03:53 GMT -5
Joe Girard is gonna play in a Final Four
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Post by orangedw on Mar 28, 2024 23:05:43 GMT -5
That block, lmao.
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Post by upstatesm on Mar 28, 2024 23:50:32 GMT -5
Joe Girard is gonna play in a Final Four I've placed a large wager on it. Now I have a nice emotional hedge.
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Post by cusefan0307 on Mar 29, 2024 7:31:44 GMT -5
Who had a worse night, Caleb Love or RJ Davis?
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Post by hofceluck on Mar 29, 2024 8:16:33 GMT -5
I’m rooting against Clemson and Joe and I’m not gonna pretend it’s wrong to do so.
Also fuck the ACC and fuck tourney credits I’m glad UNC lost.
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Post by hofceluck on Mar 29, 2024 8:19:53 GMT -5
I also hope thie next time I hear the name Armond Bacot it’s following the headline “Former UNC star kicked off Olympiakos for being too fat.”
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Post by cusefan2016 on Mar 29, 2024 8:22:07 GMT -5
I'd say some people on this board owe "dough boy" an apology. It was never his fault he was thrust into a role that did not fit him for multiple years because he played alongside the coaches son who did not want to bring in another guard to eat into any of his minutes.
He is by no means a perfect player. But he plays hard. Can shoot it. And can be play an important role on a very good team.
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Post by orangedw on Mar 29, 2024 8:50:16 GMT -5
I'd say some people on this board owe "dough boy" an apology. It was never his fault he was thrust into a role that did not fit him for multiple years because he played alongside the coaches son who did not want to bring in another guard to eat into any of his minutes. He is by no means a perfect player. But he plays hard. Can shoot it. And can be play an important role on a very good team. What you’re saying is literally what pretty much all of us were saying all along. Everything else is just jokes to piss off bees.
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Post by orangedw on Mar 29, 2024 8:53:47 GMT -5
Who had a worse night, Caleb Love or RJ Davis? No wonder UNC missed the tourney last year.
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Post by orangedw on Mar 29, 2024 10:38:35 GMT -5
Tomorrow’s women’s lineup of LSU, Iowa, USC, and UConn will probably have me glued all day. Thats brilliant TV scheduling.
And then I’ll watch the end of the Clemson-Bama men’s game. That UConn-Illinois game is getting zero run in this household.
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Post by djcon57 on Mar 29, 2024 10:57:20 GMT -5
I'd say some people on this board owe "dough boy" an apology. It was never his fault he was thrust into a role that did not fit him for multiple years because he played alongside the coaches son who did not want to bring in another guard to eat into any of his minutes. He is by no means a perfect player. But he plays hard. Can shoot it. And can be play an important role on a very good team. What you’re saying is literally what pretty much all of us were saying all along. Everything else is just jokes to piss off bees. It's total gaslight city, right now. The argument on Joe was he wasn't a point guard and the line of Buddy and Joe ruined our team for 3 years and, in general, he was not in the best shape he could be. Nothing he's doing right now is proving anything different about those debates. What I do question, watching him be effective as a role player, is how the prior coach let him shoot so many shots, especially contested 2s. But again, not Joe's fault. FWIW, if you check this thread, the idea that that vast majority of posters didn't think Joe could play on a good team is preposterous. We just didn't know what Joe wanted. If he wanted to be shooting all the time with the ball in his hands, then yeah, ACC level probably isn't best idea. What he's doing now is perfect for him. He helps their offense tremendously. THAT SAID, was 1-4 FGs. 1-4 FT. If he shot that here, specifically this year, the chances we win that game are 0. syracusefan.com/threads/joe-girard-transferring-to-clemson.175495/page-4#post-4616756
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Post by alsacs on Mar 29, 2024 11:12:43 GMT -5
What you’re saying is literally what pretty much all of us were saying all along. Everything else is just jokes to piss off bees. It's total gaslight city, right now. The argument on Joe was he wasn't a point guard and the line of Buddy and Joe ruined our team for 3 years and, in general, he was not in the best shape he could be. Nothing he's doing right now is proving anything different about those debates. What I do question, watching him be effective as a role player, is how the prior coach let him shoot so many shots, especially contested 2s. But again, not Joe's fault. FWIW, if you check this thread, the idea that that vast majority of posters didn't think Joe could play on a good team is preposterous. We just didn't know what Joe wanted. If he wanted to be shooting all the time with the ball in his hands, then yeah, ACC level probably isn't best idea. What he's doing now is perfect for him. He helps their offense tremendously. THAT SAID, was 1-4 FGs. 1-4 FT. If he shot that here, specifically this year, the chances we win that game are 0. syracusefan.com/threads/joe-girard-transferring-to-clemson.175495/page-4#post-4616756This is correct. Joe Girard can be effective basketball player because he can make shots. He is also okay as an occasional ball handler when whomever the primary ball handler is on the bench. Joe Girard frustrated Syracuse fans because his HC crammed into being the PG on the team for 3 years because 1. The HC wanted to play his son at SG for 32+ MPG and he couldn’t play Joe anywhere but PG. 2. He had Kadary Richmond come in and obviously be a superior PG option but had the predetermined rotation maybe. When we had Scoop/Waiters/Triche the minutes were evened up and the best player closed. When we had Kadary/Joe/Buddy the minutes weren’t even and Buddy was playing no matter and Kadary’s minutes depended on Joe. Plain and simple Joe Girard’s problems at Syracuse were 100% because of his head coach Jim Boeheim. Boeheim wanted to play Buddy and Joe and so Joe had to play out of position. Joe is a weapon. I swear it pisses me off what Jim Boeheim did during the daddyball era and old boomers over there censor the truth because Joyce can’t hear it and Rick wants to protect narratives. Our fanbase is so dumb. Joe was fine last year playing SG but because the roster sucked the team didn’t win and that is on Jim Boeheim. Put Girard on the teams from 2009 to 2014 he is fine and helps the team win. Again he was better than offensively than Cooney but worse defensively. Our fanbase is split between Syracuse fans first and Jim Boeheim fans first. The Jim Boeheim first fans want to pretend 2015 to 2023 nothing has really changed when the HC became worse and lazier at his job. If these discussions were allowed players like Girard who were decent but Boeheim enabled wouldn’t get as much frustration. I would take a player like Joe Girard on my team if he wasn’t one of the 3 best players. Exactly like he is on Clemson now. He is perfect for that team. Just watching them he plays his role. The team can beat a top 2 seed with him scoring 4 points. That shows a good coach can put him in a spot to be a role player and be good. Jim Boeheim stopped building complete teams after 2016 when Mike Hopkins left.
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Post by Ghost on Mar 29, 2024 11:37:25 GMT -5
What you’re saying is literally what pretty much all of us were saying all along. Everything else is just jokes to piss off bees. It's total gaslight city, right now. The argument on Joe was he wasn't a point guard and the line of Buddy and Joe ruined our team for 3 years and, in general, he was not in the best shape he could be. Nothing he's doing right now is proving anything different about those debates. What I do question, watching him be effective as a role player, is how the prior coach let him shoot so many shots, especially contested 2s. But again, not Joe's fault. FWIW, if you check this thread, the idea that that vast majority of posters didn't think Joe could play on a good team is preposterous. We just didn't know what Joe wanted. If he wanted to be shooting all the time with the ball in his hands, then yeah, ACC level probably isn't best idea. What he's doing now is perfect for him. He helps their offense tremendously. THAT SAID, was 1-4 FGs. 1-4 FT. If he shot that here, specifically this year, the chances we win that game are 0. syracusefan.com/threads/joe-girard-transferring-to-clemson.175495/page-4#post-4616756Spot on. Most of the guys from the "awful" years were certainly capable and under the right situation could have fit into a title contending type team very easily. Their roles and minutes would differ dramatically, but they all had their upside. Not really much to add other than that - I think you hit the nail on the head all around.
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Post by hofceluck on Mar 29, 2024 11:39:26 GMT -5
What you’re saying is literally what pretty much all of us were saying all along. Everything else is just jokes to piss off bees. It's total gaslight city, right now. The argument on Joe was he wasn't a point guard and the line of Buddy and Joe ruined our team for 3 years and, in general, he was not in the best shape he could be. Nothing he's doing right now is proving anything different about those debates. What I do question, watching him be effective as a role player, is how the prior coach let him shoot so many shots, especially contested 2s. But again, not Joe's fault. FWIW, if you check this thread, the idea that that vast majority of posters didn't think Joe could play on a good team is preposterous. We just didn't know what Joe wanted. If he wanted to be shooting all the time with the ball in his hands, then yeah, ACC level probably isn't best idea. What he's doing now is perfect for him. He helps their offense tremendously. THAT SAID, was 1-4 FGs. 1-4 FT. If he shot that here, specifically this year, the chances we win that game are 0. syracusefan.com/threads/joe-girard-transferring-to-clemson.175495/page-4#post-4616756It’s gaslighting one hundred percent. It isn’t like no one thought Joe could draw defenders out of the lane like he did last night. But it’s about what I expect from some posters/mods there now.
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