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Post by JazzNC on Feb 9, 2020 18:56:52 GMT -5
So what do you guys think...
If the one and done rule gets overturned it’s pretty obvious Dior will go to the NBA. But if the current rule doesn’t change and he does play college ball, will this verbal commitment stick, you think? He says he doesn’t want to play for a blue blood. But y’all know the bags will be offered by lots of schools and they’ll be a lot of people trying to dissuade him from his commitment. I’m inclined to think this kid means it... if he doesn’t jump straight to the pros he’ll suit up for us. It also means JB intends to coach beyond Buddy’s senior season???
How do you envision this playing out, now that it looks like the one and done rule won’t be overturned in time?
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Post by sobecuse on Feb 9, 2020 20:48:47 GMT -5
Any of those bigs along with Westry would be a huge haul. We need to stay relevant though. Next season could be a rough one sans Hughes. We don’t want these 2022 recruits to potentially witness a couple of NIT seasons in a row.
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Post by rustyorange on Feb 10, 2020 7:57:11 GMT -5
So what do you guys think... If the one and done rule gets overturned it’s pretty obvious Dior will go to the NBA. But if the current rule doesn’t change and he does play college ball, will this verbal commitment stick, you think? He says he doesn’t want to play for a blue blood. But y’all know the bags will be offered by lots of schools and they’ll be a lot of people trying to dissuade him from his commitment. I’m inclined to think this kid means it... if he doesn’t jump straight to the pros he’ll suit up for us. It also means JB intends to coach beyond Buddy’s senior season??? How do you envision this playing out, now that it looks like the one and done rule won’t be overturned in time? I just can’t say. I think this could be the setup for post JB actually. I can see him coming if he doesn’t go pro. Maybe a last hoorah for JB? Things change quickly with high school kids. Today’s flavor of the day is Orange, tomorrow it could be Mint Chocolate Chip. For real. Kids are fickle. Hope Syracuse can close out strong and make the tournament. That’d help big time, like Sobe said... gotta stay relevant. We need a W in 4 or 5 of our next 6 games and that should get it done.
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Post by deano on Feb 10, 2020 8:50:42 GMT -5
The class of 2022 is a long way from graduating and lots can change between now and then, but let's choose to assume that newest Syracuse commit Dior Johnson does make his way back to his home state of New York for college.
Friday night, Corey Evans helped break the news that the No. 4 player in the class of 2022 has decided to end things early and I wanted to take a look at what kind of player he could be for the Orange.
Johnson isn't the typical highly ranked point guard we've become accustomed to seeing. While he's not without athleticism, he's not the high flyer or speed merchant that you typically see at his size at his position. What he is, though, is ridiculously skilled and crafty.
Look, I'm not trying to put Johnson on the same level as Kyrie Irving or to say he'll go on to have the same type of career. But, there are some similarities between Johnson and a young Irving. The changes of pace, the hesitations, the tight handle, the flair and the ability to finish with either hand from every conceivable angle around the rim. Not to mention he's a very entertaining watch.
There's going to be plenty of time over the next few years for worry. But for now, Syracuse fans should just enjoy having Johnson committed because he's got the potential to be a game-changer the moment he arrives on campus.
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Post by deano on Feb 12, 2020 18:12:02 GMT -5
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Post by sobecuse on Feb 12, 2020 20:36:29 GMT -5
Man. I just hope him and potential others stay ours. This year is NIT. Next year is probably NIT sans Hughes if one is being realistic and fair. That makes me nervous.
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Post by tomcatcuse on Feb 13, 2020 13:19:31 GMT -5
Man. I just hope him and potential others stay ours. This year is NIT. Next year is probably NIT sans Hughes if one is being realistic and fair. That makes me nervous. I’ll believe it when I see it. If I was a rich man I’d bet a lot of dough that Dior and friends don’t play here.
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Post by deano on Feb 15, 2020 12:08:44 GMT -5
How about this early pickup for Syracuse? I knew they were in the mix early, but didn’t imagine Dior Johnson would end it so quickly. Kudos to their staff. In terms of who else they might target the names that I think are possibilities are JJ Starling, Roddy Gayle and Chance Westry.
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Post by tomcatcuse on Feb 16, 2020 6:40:59 GMT -5
How about this early pickup for Syracuse? I knew they were in the mix early, but didn’t imagine Dior Johnson would end it so quickly. Kudos to their staff. In terms of who else they might target the names that I think are possibilities are JJ Starling, Roddy Gayle and Chance Westry. No big man??? That’s what we need. Not another guard on top of Dior (who I still don’t believe is coming).
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Post by JazzNC on Feb 16, 2020 16:08:25 GMT -5
How about this early pickup for Syracuse? I knew they were in the mix early, but didn’t imagine Dior Johnson would end it so quickly. Kudos to their staff. In terms of who else they might target the names that I think are possibilities are JJ Starling, Roddy Gayle and Chance Westry. No big man??? That’s what we need. Not another guard on top of Dior (who I still don’t believe is coming). Ha! You’re catching on Tomcat! ‘Cuse coaches must have forgotten how to recruit big men. We’ve got three beanpoles that can’t do shit! And you’re right about Dior too. He isn’t coming here.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Feb 17, 2020 15:17:57 GMT -5
Are peoples consensus that he is not coming here because he will be able to jump right to the NBA? Or because he will be a one and done elsewhere?
Don't get me wrong, I realize we are a LONG way from Dior and whoever else from that class being on campus. But just seems unfair to criticize the staff for landing him and looks like lining up others. We have killed them for not being able to land high end talent, (rightfully so as well) so just feels like a damned if they do damned if they don't situation.
I guess what I am saying is that for the present time, why are we upset we just landed our highest rated recruit since Melo?
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Post by deano on Feb 17, 2020 15:41:23 GMT -5
Are peoples consensus that he is not coming here because he will be able to jump right to the NBA? Or because he will be a one and done elsewhere? Don't get me wrong, I realize we are a LONG way from Dior and whoever else from that class being on campus. But just seems unfair to criticize the staff for landing him and looks like lining up others. We have killed them for not being able to land high end talent, (rightfully so as well) so just feels like a damned if they do damned if they don't situation. I guess what I am saying is that for the present time, why are we upset we just landed our highest rated recruit since Melo? There have been rumors NBA going to change policy allowing kids to go straight to NBA out of high school in 2022 however there is an article linked in this thread that says it might not happen till 2023 Why people are little concerned is it’s nice to get this kid but then have to ask if he will ever set foot on campus. It’s just aggravating we can’t get top notched talent now and in 2020 and 2021. Staff IMHO hasn’t done a great job locking down top talent but other coaches are using JBs age and zone as negatives not to come to SU. That’s why we take project centers and low quality guards along with PFs right now.
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Post by downhere67 on Feb 17, 2020 16:59:35 GMT -5
If he plays college ball he comes here. Like I mentioned a few pages back, the earliest that the high school rule seems like it will be gone is 2023. You wonder if LB is pushing that so he can play with his kid. He is the VP of the NBAPA and would be in on that discussion.
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Post by sobecuse on Feb 17, 2020 22:57:55 GMT -5
Are peoples consensus that he is not coming here because he will be able to jump right to the NBA? Or because he will be a one and done elsewhere? Don't get me wrong, I realize we are a LONG way from Dior and whoever else from that class being on campus. But just seems unfair to criticize the staff for landing him and looks like lining up others. We have killed them for not being able to land high end talent, (rightfully so as well) so just feels like a damned if they do damned if they don't situation. I guess what I am saying is that for the present time, why are we upset we just landed our highest rated recruit since Melo? It’s a big deal and awesome. Nobody is knocking it but I have serious doubts Dior comes if SU is in its third NIT in a row before he arrives. Something I think has a strong possibility to occur. I’m glad now but we’ll just have to hope the program doesn’t keep sliding.
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Post by JazzNC on Feb 18, 2020 13:41:59 GMT -5
Are peoples consensus that he is not coming here because he will be able to jump right to the NBA? Or because he will be a one and done elsewhere? Don't get me wrong, I realize we are a LONG way from Dior and whoever else from that class being on campus. But just seems unfair to criticize the staff for landing him and looks like lining up others. We have killed them for not being able to land high end talent, (rightfully so as well) so just feels like a damned if they do damned if they don't situation. I guess what I am saying is that for the present time, why are we upset we just landed our highest rated recruit since Melo? I don’t think anyone here has criticized the staff for offering and getting an early verbal commitment from Dior. Great job. I can be skeptical that Dior ever comes to Syracuse and still be glad we’re trying. Really they are two separate issues. I will say this, however... If the staff approaches Dior’s commitment as set in stone, and don’t have potential backup players to offer because we are putting the keys to the success of our program into the hands of a 15 year old kid (or however old he is) then I’m concerned. In other words if Dior doesn’t sign his letter of intent on the earliest date allowable, or the NBA is indeed going to take players right out of high school, then the staff better not sit on their hands praying this kid is true to his word. No kid is worth hijacking the future of the program if you can get another 4 star guy to sign on. It’s all about keeping things in perspective and remembering how old this kid is and that his verbal commitment, as awesome as it it, is not binding. They have to be smart. Definitely not upset with staff for going for it. But they better keep their antenna up, and have a REAL plan B in place.
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