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Post by mikedamone on Mar 27, 2021 23:21:06 GMT -5
Griffin. Thanks for keeping us afloat early in the year, but finish up somewhere else.
Marek. Love your passing ability and willingness to play out of position but you cannot go up weak with the game on the line. Go play in Europe. Suits your game better.
Q, Kadary, Jesse and Woody. Please come back. Frabk too
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Post by sobecuse on Mar 28, 2021 0:18:06 GMT -5
I hope we can pass well without Marek next year. Good kid but it is probably time for him to play in Europe as a forward somewhere. You know if he came back he’d be stuck playing C AGAIN some lol. I doubt he wants to take that beating again.
Need a speedy/athletic backup PG in case Kadary goes down. Hopefully Benny is as good as advertised. Hopefully someone emerges as a viable post presence whether it is Jesse or the portal. Probably a Bubble territory team again if some of these issues aren’t fixed.
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Post by JazzNC on Mar 28, 2021 7:50:09 GMT -5
Who will leave? Who will return? Who besides Benny will join the team?
I suspect Buddy, Kadary, and Jesse will definitely be back.
Quincy, Joe and Bras are maybe 50/50?
Will JBA or Frank Anselem transfer?
I think Marek, Quincy, Allen, Woody and Sidibe are gone. I sure hope JB isn’t foolish enough to count on Sidibe again.
I think we could be looking at a massive loss this offseason. It’s almost like JB was eluding to it and preparing folks for it in his post game press conference.
We have Benny coming, but who else will we pursue?
We could be looking at a starting five of:
Kadary Buddy Jimmy (cuz everyone knows he’s coming) Benny Jessie
Not sure that’s a starting five capable of much more than a bubble run again? What do you guys foresee?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 8:12:06 GMT -5
My buddies and I are discussing this. Quincy in the mix to transfer? Why would he want out? He will obviously start. Does he possibly want to get away from Boeheim, the zone? Thoughts?
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Post by JazzNC on Mar 28, 2021 8:49:01 GMT -5
My buddies and I are discussing this. Quincy in the mix to transfer? Why would he want out? He will obviously start. Does he possibly want to get away from Boeheim, the zone? Thoughts? I don’t think Quincy will transfer but I can see him leaving to play professionally. I hope for our sake he stays because he’s the only bulk we have.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Mar 28, 2021 9:32:16 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't even have a guess regarding who transfers. I think this team gets along really well, but I also think this season more than any other the PT likely left some people wanting to jettison.
I say Bras comes back, but we lose a host of other players that you mention above. Have to think about it more though....
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Post by deano on Mar 28, 2021 10:27:05 GMT -5
Transfer - JBA and Woody. 50/50 - AG and Kadary. The reason I put Kadary in this area is if JB tells him that JG is going to start next year then if I were him I move on. Wouldn't play behind a guy that should be coming off the bench where KD should be our starting PG. Now if he tells him that it's open going into next season and he hopefully beats him out (gets a fair evaluation) then we are good. I lather if he leaves and we are stuck with JG again as starting PG.
QG - tests the water and 50/50 if he comes back.
Marek and Sid - move on. Don't think Sid is going to ever recover 100 percent and Marek will go back home to play pro ball over there.
Transfers possibly coming in - Jimmy Jr (gulp) Symir Torrence Q. Wahab (we recruited him initially and would be a huge upgrade at Center)
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Post by cusefan2016 on Mar 28, 2021 10:53:13 GMT -5
When the dust settles I’d feel good about a starting 5 of Kadary, Buddy, Benny. Quincey, and either Jesse of a grad transfer. Frank, Joe, and maybe Bras or off the bench if he stays. I think that’s a low end top 25 rotation if people continue to develop. And I don’t even have an issue with Jimmy coming. He’s not a scrub. He could fit the proper role off the bench.
I’m one of the larger JB supporters on this board.(Maybe the only lol) I’ve maintained it’s a talent issue and not a coaching issue with the FULL understanding that ultimately the talent level falls on the HC in terms of recruiting. Now I don’t think he gets to stay forever but he has earned a longer leash than 4-5 subpar years in the reg season. This is not Archie Miller not winning one tourney game in 4 years. It’s a hall of famer who built a program having a down 5 years that still managed to eek out 3 sweet 16s and a final 4. My timeline for fully supporting a change always hinged on next years team and the ‘22 class. If both continue to be below our standards then I would want JB out.
With all of that said, if we lose Kadary because JB tells him Joe is his starting PG and Kadary transfers I would be done. That’s just criminal. Joe has a role but it’s as a 2 guard off the bench. He can run your offense vs BC, but it ain’t happening vs a team like Houston or other High end rosters. We know JB is stubborn and sometimes loyal to a fault and that’s fine but it can’t become delusion. Letting Kadary leave because he won’t give him the keys over Joe is delusion. (Same idea as if all our forwards leave and he sees that an as opportunity to start Benny and bring Jimmy into start).
Gonna be a lot of moving parts. Will be interesting to see what unfolds. For now my faith remains in him but as mentioned through my long hopefully coherent rant it could change quickly.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Mar 28, 2021 11:06:17 GMT -5
Transfer - JBA and Woody. 50/50 - AG and Kadary. The reason I put Kadary in this area is if JB tells him that JG is going to start next year then if I were him I move on. Wouldn't play behind a guy that should be coming off the bench where KD should be our starting PG. Now if he tells him that it's open going into next season and he hopefully beats him out (gets a fair evaluation) then we are good. I lather if he leaves and we are stuck with JG again as starting PG. QG - tests the water and 50/50 if he comes back. Marek and Sid - move on. Don't think Sid is going to ever recover 100 percent and Marek will go back home to play pro ball over there. Transfers possibly coming in - Jimmy Jr (gulp) Symir Torrence Q. Wahab (we recruited him initially and would be a huge upgrade at Center) I like JBA. I kind of want him to stay, but he has the least upside by far. Then again, he seems more like a SF to me than a 5. lol I like him as a hustle/program guy, but at best he can duplicate the skills of the other two at much lower levels so he's just taking up space and we need that space more than likely. Woody. I think he's gone. That makes me sad. Kadary. I could really see him leaving. We screwed around with PT so much, I'm sure that's in his head and it's a free transfer. I'd think about it if I were him. Q is an enigma to me. He was hurt/limited, right? I feel like nobody has mastered being a momentum killer more than him. It seems like he's always that guy, like last night, that fumbles away a big opportunity (that breakout where he finds a way to get picked, for example) when we really need it. I like him, but man he frustrated the hell out of me. Marek. I'm so done with him. It's less about him and JB's overreliance on him. He's a crutch for JB, and we need him gone for that reason, not for the player that he is. Sid. I forget he's on the team 73% of the time.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Mar 28, 2021 11:18:30 GMT -5
I couldn’t disagree more on Marek. You want JBA to stick around because he’s a “good program guy”? Sure seems like he is but he is a fun kid but he belong anywhere close to this level right now or anytime soon.
Marek is a 4 year guy who has produced at consistent and productive levels while being asked to play vastly out of a position for 2 of his 4 years. That’s a good program guy. Does he look traditional as he’s doing it? No. Is he perfect? No. But I think it’s crazy to utter one negative word about him for his 4 years,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 13:43:05 GMT -5
My buddies and I are discussing this. Quincy in the mix to transfer? Why would he want out? He will obviously start. Does he possibly want to get away from Boeheim, the zone? Thoughts? I don’t think Quincy will transfer but I can see him leaving to play professionally. I hope for our sake he stays because he’s the only bulk we have. Simms on Clemson is a senior. I wonder what he's projected for as far as the NBA goes. Could serve as a barometer and cautionary tale for Quincy.
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Post by bowery14 on Mar 28, 2021 13:47:28 GMT -5
My buddies and I are discussing this. Quincy in the mix to transfer? Why would he want out? He will obviously start. Does he possibly want to get away from Boeheim, the zone? Thoughts? I pray Q comes back, we could have a around frontcourt next year with him, Benny and a transfer like The Georgetown kid and Edwards.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Mar 28, 2021 17:16:48 GMT -5
I couldn’t disagree more on Marek. You want JBA to stick around because he’s a “good program guy”? Sure seems like he is but he is a fun kid but he belong anywhere close to this level right now or anytime soon. Marek is a 4 year guy who has produced at consistent and productive levels while being asked to play vastly out of a position for 2 of his 4 years. That’s a good program guy. Does he look traditional as he’s doing it? No. Is he perfect? No. But I think it’s crazy to utter one negative word about him for his 4 years, I think you're missing my point somewhat. I really like Marek. If JB wasn't a coach I'd certainly want him back - I just worry JB will do his schtick of just tossing him endless minutes if someone else doesn't produce from Day 1 and stunt the team's development for the sake of being comfortable. As he seems incredibly prone to doing (see JG/Kadary, Marke/Edwards, Buddy at SF over Woody/Bras after he got a little comfy with Kadary at PG). I feel like Marek got shafted here having to play the 5 so much. JBA is just a guy I would keep if the roster permitted it. I like his energy/enthusiasm and for a guy that tall he has a really nice handle, and he's really agile. I don't think he develops into a usable piece, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like him here just to see what he could do in Year 4. That being said, that's a luxury, and I don't know that we have room for him.
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Post by OttoMan on Mar 28, 2021 19:51:09 GMT -5
I hope we can pass well without Marek next year. Good kid but it is probably time for him to play in Europe as a forward somewhere. You know if he came back he’d be stuck playing C AGAIN some lol. I doubt he wants to take that beating again. Need a speedy/athletic backup PG in case Kadary goes down. Hopefully Benny is as good as advertised. Hopefully someone emerges as a viable post presence whether it is Jesse or the portal. Probably a Bubble territory team again if some of these issues aren’t fixed. I thought Dolejaz was done this year. If he can come back I would love it. He is so versatile and helps with bringing the ball up court. I don't think he could play center again though but he could always provide some depth at the spot if we really need him due to foul trouble. that's not a bad play. I think Joe remains our backup point guard. well, he starts now, but next year will shift into a less pronounced role and then maybe starts again as a ssenior?
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Post by bowery14 on Mar 29, 2021 12:16:53 GMT -5
I think i err on the mikedamone side.
Marek can pass but it's his time to move on
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