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Post by JazzNC on Apr 14, 2021 6:38:21 GMT -5
Reading between the lines here... I think it’s settled. Not that I ever had any doubts.
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Post by deano on Apr 14, 2021 7:31:38 GMT -5
Translation - JB forced AG out based on what he did to him towards the tournament and heard Woody had gotten in the doghouse so was just matter of time before he got run off. It's sad to see a HC do this to accommodate his own son.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Apr 14, 2021 8:34:20 GMT -5
Does JB want his other son here to coach both of them? 1000% yes and who can blame him. Despite Buddy coming on at the end and being our best player was it frustrating to see at times how a lot is catered to him oppose to other kids? 1000% yes again.
Was JB playing 4 dimensional chess as early as January of this year to bench Woody and then later Alan to make it all happen? Now you're getting a little nuts. Not sure how you can argue with Alans benching by the ACCT and NCAA. Braswell and QG were clearly the best options and even Marek saw minutes there because of Jesse getting time.
And it is not like JB did not give Alan a shot. He started every game and every half. Even got reinserted at times too. Again yes JB no doubt wants Jimmy here and to coach him and Buddy. But lets not act like this was some master plan that dates as far back Woody's benching.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Apr 14, 2021 8:47:51 GMT -5
JB also mentioned 4 forwards in that quote. If you lock in Benny, Swider, and Jimmy who is the 4th? Hopefully QG coming back. That is a trade I would easily take. QG back adding in Jimmy for Woody. Also IF Quincey really is coming back, there is no way Woody was sticking around regardless of Jimmy I dont think.
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Post by sobecuse on Apr 15, 2021 19:21:34 GMT -5
Does JB want his other son here to coach both of them? 1000% yes and who can blame him. Despite Buddy coming on at the end and being our best player was it frustrating to see at times how a lot is catered to him oppose to other kids? 1000% yes again. Was JB playing 4 dimensional chess as early as January of this year to bench Woody and then later Alan to make it all happen? Now you're getting a little nuts. Not sure how you can argue with Alans benching by the ACCT and NCAA. Braswell and QG were clearly the best options and even Marek saw minutes there because of Jesse getting time. And it is not like JB did not give Alan a shot. He started every game and every half. Even got reinserted at times too. Again yes JB no doubt wants Jimmy here and to coach him and Buddy. But lets not act like this was some master plan that dates as far back Woody's benching. I don’t understand the Joe/Kadary issue at all but I don’t have an issue with some of JBs moves with the handling of the forwards. JB is delusional in the sense that he will lie to the media to defend his rotations and/or keep using the wrong analytics to support his narratives. But, he does want to win (again hard to understand the Kadary thing) and Braswell was giving us more than Griffin near the end of the season. Griffin was liability on both ends pretty much. Like you said, he would re-insert him to have him try to rectify things but that never went well. Braswell was the right move. Newton probably was playing poorly in practice and not doing what he was told. In games he would really just launch threes and jack it up immediately. Also heard he was really bickering with JB off the court. There isn’t room for Newton and it actually might benefit us to have Jimmy Jr who is stronger and will rebound. Newton didn’t even rebound well in H.S. I gotta defend JB on this. Make no mistake through. I don’t know what the hell he is doing with this roster and I don’t know how we are going make a lot of plays against some teams with athletes. This team could be scary bad dribbling around too much and you DO need some of that if you are going to spread people out without an inside game lol.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Apr 16, 2021 8:40:27 GMT -5
Yea again Im probably the only person on this board who even mildly is a JB fan at this point. (Or at least willing to give him another 18 months). I am more than happy to criticize the guard rotation. And in that instance, I DO think it was partially about protecting his sons minutes. By moving Kadary to the starting 1, Joe would probably be more likely to spell Buddy at the 2 opposed to PG minutes. (Especially early/middle of the year when Buddy was struggling)
But in no way, shape, or form do I think that was the case with the forwards for some 8 month 5 step plan to get Jimmy to come in.
I liked Woodys game, think he could be a good fit a good player. (With a huge ego too) But we all talk about lack of bulk and talent. We lost a fringe top 115 player in his class and brought in a top 40 kid and probably a better rebounder down low.
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Post by JazzNC on Apr 16, 2021 10:18:43 GMT -5
Jimmy’s supposed to announce today. He wants to play for a high major team but Syracuse is the only high major team he’s linked to. Hofstra isn’t high major. I expect him to be Orange. And I’m going on record now in saying that I hope JB doesn’t destroy team chemistry by playing both Buddy and Jimmy ahead of guys who should be playing... or at the expense of losing Frank, Jesse, Cole or Benny.... or Q if he returns. Things could get very very complicated.
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Post by deano on Apr 16, 2021 11:50:01 GMT -5
Jimmy’s supposed to announce today. He wants to play for a high major team but Syracuse is the only high major team he’s linked to. Hofstra isn’t high major. I expect him to be Orange. And I’m going on record now in saying that I hope JB doesn’t destroy team chemistry by playing both Buddy and Jimmy ahead of guys who should be playing... or at the expense of losing Frank, Jesse, Cole or Benny.... or Q if he returns. Things could get very very complicated. Yep that's my whole issue to is chemistry and if he plays his sons ahead of others. I'm going to go on record and say it will happen. Look how is with Buddy at times. He may be off or stink it up, but 3 or 4 minutes later after making him sit it's like, OMG I gotta get Buddy back in there....smh.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Apr 16, 2021 12:13:11 GMT -5
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Please no.
Please, no, no, no.
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Post by JazzNC on Apr 16, 2021 12:23:59 GMT -5
Done deal... and it may very well be a very big mistake... not because Jimmy can’t contribute but because it WILL effect chemistry. Book it.
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Post by sobecuse on Apr 16, 2021 15:11:02 GMT -5
Yea again Im probably the only person on this board who even mildly is a JB fan at this point. (Or at least willing to give him another 18 months). I am more than happy to criticize the guard rotation. And in that instance, I DO think it was partially about protecting his sons minutes. By moving Kadary to the starting 1, Joe would probably be more likely to spell Buddy at the 2 opposed to PG minutes. (Especially early/middle of the year when Buddy was struggling) But in no way, shape, or form do I think that was the case with the forwards for some 8 month 5 step plan to get Jimmy to come in. I liked Woodys game, think he could be a good fit a good player. (With a huge ego too) But we all talk about lack of bulk and talent. We lost a fringe top 115 player in his class and brought in a top 40 kid and probably a better rebounder down low. I quoted and agreed with you lol.
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Post by sobecuse on Apr 16, 2021 15:13:14 GMT -5
Done deal... and it may very well be a very big mistake... not because Jimmy can’t contribute but because it WILL effect chemistry. Book it. If this is the way the old man wants to go out then let it be. Hope it works out. I have some major concerns about ballhandling, athleticism, and the Defense. Shooters are fine but they need to get open and SOMEBODY needs to be able to break good defenders/athletes down off the bounce.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Apr 16, 2021 22:39:35 GMT -5
Your major concerns are my major concerns, except I'd likely try to express my concerns in a more dire fashion.
Great post though. I'm not even sure what to add other than my sadness at this development.
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Post by sobecuse on Apr 16, 2021 23:27:49 GMT -5
Your major concerns are my major concerns, except I'd likely try to express my concerns in a more dire fashion. Great post though. I'm not even sure what to add other than my sadness at this development. It’s pretty grim. JB might be able to get them to scratch and claw to the Bubble again but that’s not good enough. BIG article came out by DO today illustrating some of the problems and recruiting/perception of the program. Scouts, others coaches, etc., I think were sources. JB went into classic panic mode and called into Axe with a lot of incoherent gibberish, haha. This will be a rough ride moving forward.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Apr 17, 2021 9:06:45 GMT -5
The article had some valid points. And also a lot of nonsense that didn’t make sense. But I just think it was 2-3 years delayed. We are recruiting much better now then we were 2-3 years ago.
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