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Post by alsacs on Nov 27, 2023 16:34:26 GMT -5
I really don’t care at this point who we hire. We have a chicken $hit operation and it doesn’t matter. The fact is we dropped the ball. That is why I don’t care at this point. Neither do I. I don’t watch football anymore anyway. Hiring Mullen was about more than football, it was about survival. With the same level of recruiting, upgrading from Babers to Mullen translates to 2-3 additional wins per year. That puts us back to where we were under Pasqualoni and gives us a seat at the table in a post-NCAA world. It doesn’t matter who we hire now. They’ll be gone in 3-4 years and the coaching carousel will continue. We’ll be a tier below the super league. Gross was a better AD than Wildhack. We needed to move to the ACC and he delivered. He helped us become relevant in the Olympic sports. Wildhack hasn’t delivered on anything aside from the Dome renovation. His ESPN connections were supposed to benefit us in some way. Still waiting… Gross got us into the ACC. He was also the fall guy for what happened with Fab Melo. He got paid off but he was the fall guy. Gross hiring of GRob screwed us up big time. The GRob hire set SU back a decade. If he keeps P one more year. Ray Rice doesn’t go to Rutgers and they don’t have that momentum. We don’t bottom out but continue mediocrity. That changed everything. Gross was up for the job he just spent money we didn’t have that we have now. The lack of funding caused us to cheap out on a lot.
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Post by floridafan on Nov 27, 2023 17:13:19 GMT -5
Honestly has Bulldog be right about anything? The only person I’m trusting rn is Jeremycuse. And maybe SUDad
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Post by floridafan on Nov 27, 2023 17:59:46 GMT -5
SU has the chance to do the funniest thing ever in the world and announce HCSS 2.0 now that he will be out at MTSU. I want to see that board explode
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Post by orangedw on Nov 27, 2023 18:02:16 GMT -5
The players following Mullen really had me thinking something was up.
Incredibly disappointing.
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Post by orangedw on Nov 27, 2023 18:05:16 GMT -5
Also, these other names - are they even an upgrade from Dino? Dino’s resume was certainly better when we hired him than Chesney and Brown.
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Post by floridafan on Nov 27, 2023 18:10:55 GMT -5
Also, these other names - are they even an upgrade from Dino? Dino’s resume was certainly better when we hired him than Chesney and Brown. the funny thing is they each bring one thing better then Dino but lack the other thing he had. Brown is a way better recruiter than Dino at every single stop but he doesn’t have any HC experience which Dino did. On the other hand Chesney has proven he can win with his own players and build a team which Dino never did. All his runs were 2-3 years with other coaches recruited players. But Chesney has never recruited in the FBS
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Post by floridafan on Nov 27, 2023 18:12:44 GMT -5
If you could somehow fuse those 2 into one coach they’d be top 5 easily. Ofc they would never coach here so we are in the position of either taking a guy who can program build but no clue on his recruiting at this level. Or we take the recruiter and gamble on if he can program build on his first time.
Or we take candle who has proven he can win but in the MAC where his team is a big fish in a small pond. And it remains to be seen can he recruit NJ or the south. Since most of Toledo’s kids come from Ohio and further west
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Post by JazzNC on Nov 27, 2023 21:05:57 GMT -5
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Post by JazzNC on Nov 27, 2023 21:08:17 GMT -5
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Post by JazzNC on Nov 27, 2023 21:17:02 GMT -5
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Post by floridafan on Nov 27, 2023 21:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by orangedw on Nov 27, 2023 21:23:28 GMT -5
Very interesting.
Let’s hope he can recruit at Syracuse too. Nobody has been able to in 25 years.
And perhaps just as important - hopefully we can pay for a legit staff.
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Post by JazzNC on Nov 27, 2023 21:23:37 GMT -5
Pretty articulate guy.
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Post by floridafan on Nov 27, 2023 21:23:58 GMT -5
Honestly I can get behind brown. I’ve spent the day talking to Georgia fans about him and every one of them has had nothing but good things to say about him. Obviously 0 experience as a HC but many of them have said they think he would kill it here. If it ends up being him I’ll probably donate and support like I would Mullen. He seems like a grinder and someone who will instill some hustle in the players
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Post by floridafan on Nov 27, 2023 21:25:55 GMT -5
seems like he recognizes everyone who plays. Honestly am talking myself into him alot
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