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Post by alsacs on Jun 23, 2023 11:00:35 GMT -5
Kids don’t really develop professional skills playing college basketball anymore. These college coaches want to win and don’t develop players. I really wish the NBA and NBAPA let HS kids enter the NBA draft and follow the MLB model. I don’t want the MLB mode for selfish Syracuse purposes but to actually make basketball development better.
Let kids go pro out of HS and then enter the nba and those kids will get pro coaching and be better pros. Kids going into college just get drafted on potential because college hoops coaches aren’t developing them in 1 season. That one season could be used by pro coaches to get them ready for pro ball.
College basketball coaches just roll the ball out and make the kids play their way and aren’t good at teaching the skills to make them better pros.
Also Jim Boeheim had one player drafted by the NBA since 2017. Our talent being terrible doesn’t get hung around his neck enough IMO. But we are all scofflaws so we know why it’s not mentioned. Instead we get puff pieces about him enjoying retirement and not about how he mailed in his job for 5 years to coach his kids and not even be humble about the mediocrity.
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Post by hofceluck on Jun 23, 2023 13:07:28 GMT -5
Juwan Howard is a scofflaw.
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Post by day2 on Jun 24, 2023 8:47:40 GMT -5
Kids don’t really develop professional skills playing college basketball anymore. These college coaches want to win and don’t develop players. I really wish the NBA and NBAPA let HS kids enter the NBA draft and follow the MLB model. I don’t want the MLB mode for selfish Syracuse purposes but to actually make basketball development better. Let kids go pro out of HS and then enter the nba and those kids will get pro coaching and be better pros. Kids going into college just get drafted on potential because college hoops coaches aren’t developing them in 1 season. That one season could be used by pro coaches to get them ready for pro ball. College basketball coaches just roll the ball out and make the kids play their way and aren’t good at teaching the skills to make them better pros. Also Jim Boeheim had one player drafted by the NBA since 2017. Our talent being terrible doesn’t get hung around his neck enough IMO. But we are all scofflaws so we know why it’s not mentioned. Instead we get puff pieces about him enjoying retirement and not about how he mailed in his job for 5 years to coach his kids and not even be humble about the mediocrity. He could have been more humble about the mediocrity, I’ll give you that. He earned the right to coach his sons, though. Most fan bases have never and will never get the 42-year run we got to experience before the last five. And, at least from a roster-building standpoint, Red got us back on track overnight.
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Post by orangedw on Jun 24, 2023 9:48:34 GMT -5
Kids don’t really develop professional skills playing college basketball anymore. These college coaches want to win and don’t develop players. I really wish the NBA and NBAPA let HS kids enter the NBA draft and follow the MLB model. I don’t want the MLB mode for selfish Syracuse purposes but to actually make basketball development better. Let kids go pro out of HS and then enter the nba and those kids will get pro coaching and be better pros. Kids going into college just get drafted on potential because college hoops coaches aren’t developing them in 1 season. That one season could be used by pro coaches to get them ready for pro ball. College basketball coaches just roll the ball out and make the kids play their way and aren’t good at teaching the skills to make them better pros. Also Jim Boeheim had one player drafted by the NBA since 2017. Our talent being terrible doesn’t get hung around his neck enough IMO. But we are all scofflaws so we know why it’s not mentioned. Instead we get puff pieces about him enjoying retirement and not about how he mailed in his job for 5 years to coach his kids and not even be humble about the mediocrity. He could have been more humble about the mediocrity, I’ll give you that. He earned the right to coach his sons, though. Most fan bases have never and will never get the 42-year run we got to experience before the last five. And, at least from a roster-building standpoint, Red got us back on track overnight. Coaching his son that was good enough to play here….fine. Did recruiting have to tank so that he magically had to play the whole game and be the go to guy though, while his scrubby friend ran point….and eventually his older brother came in to also play the whole game(including minutes at center?!) That squad being built around those guys was nuts. Why couldn’t we recruit like normal and have those guys in roles they were built for?
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Post by day2 on Jun 24, 2023 9:50:10 GMT -5
He could have been more humble about the mediocrity, I’ll give you that. He earned the right to coach his sons, though. Most fan bases have never and will never get the 42-year run we got to experience before the last five. And, at least from a roster-building standpoint, Red got us back on track overnight. Coaching his son that was good enough to play here….fine. Did recruiting have to tank so that he magically had to play the whole game and be the go to guy though, while his scrubby friend ran point….and eventually his older brother came in to also play the whole game(including minutes at center?!) That squad being built around those guys was nuts. Why couldn’t we recruit like normal and have those guys in roles they were built for? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by hofceluck on Jun 24, 2023 10:29:04 GMT -5
Jimmy Jr still bothers me.
Admittedly much less now since we got JJ, Chance to come and Mintz to stay.
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Post by orangedw on Jun 24, 2023 12:53:58 GMT -5
Jimmy Jr still bothers me. Admittedly much less now since we got JJ, Chance to come and Mintz to stay. All of our forwards (even the starters!) just magically all decided to leave at the same time, thank goodness Jimmy Jr. was available to save the day!!! *jerkoff motion* Jimmy would’ve been great if he came in and played 10-15 mpg off the bench behind Quincy and Swider, or something.
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Post by day2 on Jun 24, 2023 21:32:57 GMT -5
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Post by Ghost on Jun 26, 2023 19:53:28 GMT -5
Jimmy Jr still bothers me. Admittedly much less now since we got JJ, Chance to come and Mintz to stay. All of our forwards (even the starters!) just magically all decided to leave at the same time, thank goodness Jimmy Jr. was available to save the day!!! *jerkoff motion* Jimmy would’ve been great if he came in and played 10-15 mpg off the bench behind Quincy and Swider, or something. This was always me least favorite part of arguing people. Yes, I'm fine with Buddy. Yes, I'm fine with Joe. Yes, I'm fine with Jimmy. But not if it destroys the program. But you wanted more shooting! Yeah, I did. I wanted people that could dribble, or play defense as well - or some mix. My second least favorite part was arguing with people that on the OT board HATE white privilege - whilst pretending that JB/Jimmy/Buddy wasn't perhaps the most shining example of abuse of that privilege in the modern history of sports. lol I am extremely wealthy, but I'm going to use my employer as a tool to get my boy to the NBA! I mean, it was a giant experiment to see what could happen if a major college program devoted itself to one not-so-athletic 6'6" shooter....and it kinda worked, but as everyone should have expected, led to disastrous results for the employer.
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Post by alsacs on Jun 27, 2023 11:26:19 GMT -5
Kids don’t really develop professional skills playing college basketball anymore. These college coaches want to win and don’t develop players. I really wish the NBA and NBAPA let HS kids enter the NBA draft and follow the MLB model. I don’t want the MLB mode for selfish Syracuse purposes but to actually make basketball development better. Let kids go pro out of HS and then enter the nba and those kids will get pro coaching and be better pros. Kids going into college just get drafted on potential because college hoops coaches aren’t developing them in 1 season. That one season could be used by pro coaches to get them ready for pro ball. College basketball coaches just roll the ball out and make the kids play their way and aren’t good at teaching the skills to make them better pros. Also Jim Boeheim had one player drafted by the NBA since 2017. Our talent being terrible doesn’t get hung around his neck enough IMO. But we are all scofflaws so we know why it’s not mentioned. Instead we get puff pieces about him enjoying retirement and not about how he mailed in his job for 5 years to coach his kids and not even be humble about the mediocrity. He could have been more humble about the mediocrity, I’ll give you that. He earned the right to coach his sons, though. Most fan bases have never and will never get the 42-year run we got to experience before the last five. And, at least from a roster-building standpoint, Red got us back on track overnight. The issue was he neglected the roster for Buddy to play 3 years with no other options. I still remember the Northeastern game during Covid Buddy sucked and he put Kadary but had to play Buddy at the SF just so he wouldn’t sit. That was insane. It showed the coach wasn’t being fair at all and wouldn’t as long as his kid was here. Then he made Jimmy a 35MPG player. Listen I respect what JB here but he completely sabotaged the program so he could play his kids and he didn’t even have the decency to not be an ahole about it. He is why the Syracusefan board is broken. CTO’s friendship with him makes it impossible for people to be frustrated and because she gives her courtside seats to Bees/Tomcat:Cherie they protect the messages she doesn’t want to see. If Jim wasn’t a jerk and was humble then playing his kids would atleast been given more of a rope but he pretended nothing was wrong and fans were jerks for not paying to see his inferior product that he created. It’s just calling a spade a spade.
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