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Post by cusesky8214 on Nov 12, 2019 14:19:48 GMT -5
I think if anything its UK. I dont see bama.
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Post by deano on Nov 12, 2019 14:33:16 GMT -5
Burnett to TT. Bama wont look too impressive from a roster standpoint for jackson imho. Who knows what they are thinking but it's worth noting. But damn Beard is doing good things at TT. Would he be a good candidate to go after in a few years? I would take Beard in a heartbeat. If he can win with the talent he's had at TT, imagine what he could do at SU.
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Post by sobecuse on Nov 12, 2019 14:36:29 GMT -5
Burnett to TT. Bama wont look too impressive from a roster standpoint for jackson imho. Who knows what they are thinking but it's worth noting. But damn Beard is doing good things at TT. Would he be a good candidate to go after in a few years? I would take Beard in a heartbeat. If he can win with the talent he's had at TT, imagine what he could do at SU. Beard is fantastic. They play tough and hard.
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Post by littleregion on Nov 12, 2019 14:40:47 GMT -5
JQ also hasn’t really done anything at the college level so i dont know why people are acting like he’s a proven stud just because of his high school ranking.
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Post by sobecuse on Nov 12, 2019 14:42:03 GMT -5
Burnett committed to Texas Tech but they will have Quinerly running the point if IJ is there. Actually, Alabama’s 2019 class is ranked higher than ours (21 vs 33 per 247) and they have three 4* combo/SG types so theoretically they have a better roster. UVA is one game but we have seen a lot of the same problems. Rinse ‘n repeat. They aren’t world beaters either. They have possibly one NBA player on that team in Diakite and Clark made our guards look ridiculous. IJ can’t be too impressed with the scheme. Even a blind man would be concerned and wondering what the hell we are doing. Just think if IJ or his pops is watching any of our screening by the bigs or lack thereof. Bama will be hurting BIG time if they lose lewis/petty and have only Quinerly and remaining roster. We might have some issues for sure but we absolutely have a better roster then that especially with the addition of kadary. Quinerly isnt going to do a thing. Kid was way over hyped. But I do get what your saying regarding scheme. We just don’t know re: Quinerly. He was basically shut down by Wright because he wouldn’t play defense and buy in. Not a talent issue. If he gets his head on right then who knows. Oats will make sure he plays hard I would think and if he doesn’t he won’t play. But, as for his actual game? We don’t know yet. Certainly too early to dismiss him. Regardless of Kadary, the experts (at least on 247) feel Alabama’s 2019 class is better than ours. It is what it is.
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Post by sobecuse on Nov 12, 2019 14:44:59 GMT -5
JQ also hasn’t really done anything at the college level so i dont know why people are acting like he’s a proven stud just because of his high school ranking. Nobody is saying that. Jury is still out. He didn’t play because of lack of talent. It’s because he didn’t play hard and buy into Wright’s defensive approach and tougness/commitment on that end. He’s an unknown but not because of lack of talent.
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Post by cusesky8214 on Nov 12, 2019 14:51:16 GMT -5
Bama will be hurting BIG time if they lose lewis/petty and have only Quinerly and remaining roster. We might have some issues for sure but we absolutely have a better roster then that especially with the addition of kadary. Quinerly isnt going to do a thing. Kid was way over hyped. But I do get what your saying regarding scheme. We just don’t know re: Quinerly. He was basically shut down by Wright because he wouldn’t play defense and buy in. Not a talent issue. If he gets his head on right then who knows. Oats will make sure he plays hard I would think and if he doesn’t he won’t play. But, as for his actual game? We don’t know yet. Certainly too early to dismiss him. Regardless of Kadary, the experts (at least on 247) feel Alabama’s 2019 class is better than ours. It is what it is. Quinerly hasnt been good. Spin it how u want but his body of work so far isnt stellar and I'm not sure hes enticing enough to matter either way. Their talent is on the roster right now (lewis and petty) and lewis is real nice. They are guns bolt after this year no doubt and what they have left and incoming isnt good even if its tanked higher then ours I'd take ours any day of the week. (Minus lewis and petty roster) I have felt hes been a UK kid anyways.
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Post by cusesky8214 on Nov 12, 2019 14:53:16 GMT -5
JQ also hasn’t really done anything at the college level so i dont know why people are acting like he’s a proven stud just because of his high school ranking. Nobody is saying that. Jury is still out. He didn’t play because of lack of talent. It’s because he didn’t play hard and buy into Wright’s defensive approach and tougness/commitment on that end. He’s an unknown but not because of lack of talent. Not sure it was just defense. I dont think he did much of anything if I recall. Giving him the benefit of the doubt more then you've ever given any of our players and hes been dookie. Kinda odd. Even if it was just his defense that's a pretty huge part of the game....but let's just chalk it up to him not buying into Wright's system and that's it.
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Post by cusesky8214 on Nov 12, 2019 15:03:54 GMT -5
Quinerly played in 25 games but wasnt given a chance because he didnt buy into Wright's system. Averaged 9.1min a game and 3.2 points and all his other averages were garbage. Let's not even talk about his defense. Hes jellyfam 2.0 but hes going to be special under oats. Lewis is good...Quinerly not so much.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Nov 12, 2019 15:04:47 GMT -5
Everyone that is saying the beanpole thing is hurting us in a recruitment like this. So immediate playing time and being a focal part of the offense is a bad thing? Again, I have ZERO idea if he is comning here. I have no sources. I am just a big fan who likes to talk cuse hoops.
I hope IJ does end up in orange, and I am not blind to the idea that we have gotten worse and we are not recruiting as well in the last 4 years. But the people who are down on JB and program again have their fair reasons at times, but blow things out of proportion IMO by connecting the dots of one opening night and landing a recruit.
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Post by sobecuse on Nov 12, 2019 15:05:17 GMT -5
We just don’t know re: Quinerly. He was basically shut down by Wright because he wouldn’t play defense and buy in. Not a talent issue. If he gets his head on right then who knows. Oats will make sure he plays hard I would think and if he doesn’t he won’t play. But, as for his actual game? We don’t know yet. Certainly too early to dismiss him. Regardless of Kadary, the experts (at least on 247) feel Alabama’s 2019 class is better than ours. It is what it is. Quinerly hasnt been good. Spin it how u want but his body of work so far isnt stellar and I'm not sure hes enticing enough to matter either way. Their talent is on the roster right now (lewis and petty) and lewis is real nice. They are guns bolt after this year no doubt and what they have left and incoming isnt good even if its tanked higher then ours I'd take ours any day of the week. (Minus lewis and petty roster) I have felt hes been a UK kid anyways. So you are going to just disregard the experts ranking (247) of Alabama’s 2019 class VS ours? Not sure what we are arguing about re: Quinerly. I heard Steve Lappas on Sirius last year and Rothstein tweeted about it a few times how Quinerly’s attitude and poor effort on D wasn’t getting him the playing time. Towards the end of the season he would only get a couple of mins a game or a DNP. Much like Kaleb Joseph at Creighton. Not related to a talent issue re: Quinerly. Now he could be good or could be a bust. We don’t know and it’s obviously too early to just dismiss him.
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Post by cusesky8214 on Nov 12, 2019 15:14:23 GMT -5
Quinerly cant shoot and is taurean thompson bad on defense but let's chalk that up to Wright's system and him not buying in.
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Post by sobecuse on Nov 12, 2019 15:18:52 GMT -5
Quinerly cant shoot and is taurean thompson bad on defense but let's chalk that up to Wright's system and him not buying in. Hey man don’t shoot the messenger. It’s what plugged in guys have said re: Quinerly. Shooting didn’t keep him off the court. Bad defense and bad attitude did. Of course not buying in is a factor, lol. You don’t buy in and you don’t play. Especially in guys like Wright and Izzo type systems. Baird too. Heard him in an interview last season. Said if a player is not going to move the ball and not going to play D then he won’t play. Love it.
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Post by cusesky8214 on Nov 12, 2019 15:25:18 GMT -5
Quinerly cant shoot and is taurean thompson bad on defense but let's chalk that up to Wright's system and him not buying in. Hey man don’t shoot the messenger. It’s what plugged in guys have said re: Quinerly. Shooting didn’t keep him off the court. Bad defense and bad attitude did. Of course not buying in is a factor, lol. You don’t buy in and you don’t play. Especially in guys like Wright and Izzo type systems. Baird too. Heard him in an interview last season. Said if a player is not going to move the ball and not going to play D then he won’t play. Love it. Maybe so...I just dont see it with Quinerly. He was pretty bad even if it was a small sample size. Lewis is special and petty can be although hes on or off. They lose them 2 and I think they are hurtin.
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Post by sobecuse on Nov 12, 2019 15:35:28 GMT -5
Hey man don’t shoot the messenger. It’s what plugged in guys have said re: Quinerly. Shooting didn’t keep him off the court. Bad defense and bad attitude did. Of course not buying in is a factor, lol. You don’t buy in and you don’t play. Especially in guys like Wright and Izzo type systems. Baird too. Heard him in an interview last season. Said if a player is not going to move the ball and not going to play D then he won’t play. Love it. Maybe so...I just dont see it with Quinerly. He was pretty bad even if it was a small sample size. Lewis is special and petty can be although hes on or off. They lose them 2 and I think they are hurtin. I mean he could certainly be a bust and another Jellyfam. No doubt. Alabama also has the num 1 JUCO forward in their 2019 class. Rivals didn’t rank him but 247 did. We’re still talking about a 5 MAN CLASS for Syracuse in 2019 ranked 33 on 247 and 31 on Rivals. Not good. Doesn’t look like there is any high end talent especially with the bigs. Looks like Guerrier is also about where he should be ranked and not some one and done. He’s been pretty poor in the exhibitions and last Wed.
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