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Post by JazzNC on Dec 25, 2019 10:44:54 GMT -5
Was a center who can rebound, set good screens, block shots, hold his own on the defensive end, and is strong enough to finish plays inside through contact.
A real point guard would’ve been a bonus.
Seriously though guys, Happy Holidays. I enjoy the camaraderie on this board. Peace and blessings for a prosperous and healthy New Year!
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Post by deano on Dec 25, 2019 17:23:30 GMT -5
You forgot new HC.
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Post by JazzNC on Dec 26, 2019 7:58:25 GMT -5
Seriously though, anyone who has watched Syracuse this year can see that we lack interior size and strength. So what do we recruit??? Another guard (Kadary), and a thin project in Woody. Our recruiting and roster management is putrid. JB needs to go.
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Post by sobecuse on Dec 26, 2019 9:19:17 GMT -5
Seriously Jazz. It’s Sad. I watch all these games and our personnel isn’t even close. The big guy from Houston was good and good guards too. We play these teams 10 times and we probably win 1 or 2 max. The Zone would get us a W by default due to unfamiliarity and such. Also we make some threes even if forced/jacked shots. But, after the honeymoon is over, these kinds of teams would grind us down and make it look bad in doing so. In a down year of college hoops to boot. I’m not sure we could get many quality shots off against either of these types of teams. HOU’s M2M would suffocate us.
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Post by tomcatcuse on Dec 26, 2019 10:49:10 GMT -5
I really don’t understand how we recruit anymore. Do we really think going into 2020 with Sidibe, Jesse, and JBA is going to be sufficient? JB himself said that they need to gain 50 pounds to compete. Who here thinks any of these guys will be ready to play at the level we need them to play by next season? Not me.
If the best predictor of the future is the past, I see no reason to believe that any of those guys can be good enough or strong enough in one offseason. Why should I believe that Jesse or JBA can? Marek hasn’t. Sidibe hasn’t. Chukwu didn’t. Shit we had a FIVE star center named Rak who didn’t play really well until his senior season. So why do we think our less heralded guys can develop at a faster rate? It’s flat out crazy if you ask me. Our player development has been very poor, and our strength and conditioning has been non-existent.
We needed to prioritize a power forward or center with strength but seem to just take whatever 4 star guy who’s willing to come lately just so we can say we have a highly rated class. Problem is we haven’t had a top 20 ranked class in a very very long time.
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Post by sobecuse on Dec 26, 2019 11:17:13 GMT -5
I really don’t understand how we recruit anymore. Do we really think going into 2020 with Sidibe, Jesse, and JBA is going to be sufficient? JB himself said that they need to gain 50 pounds to compete. Who here thinks any of these guys will be ready to play at the level we need them to play by next season? Not me. If the best predictor of the future is the past, I see no reason to believe that any of those guys can be good enough or strong enough in one offseason. Why should I believe that Jesse or JBA can? Marek hasn’t. Sidibe hasn’t. Chukwu didn’t. Shit we had a FIVE star center named Rak who didn’t play really well until his senior season. So why do we think our less heralded guys can develop at a faster rate? It’s flat out crazy if you ask me. Our player development has been very poor, and our strength and conditioning has been non-existent. We needed to prioritize a power forward or center with strength but seem to just take whatever 4 star guy who’s willing to come lately just so we can say we have a highly rated class. Problem is we haven’t had a top 20 ranked class in a very very long time. Yeah this is spot on. A post like this last year got Jazz and me banned from the other site predicting our trouble and struggles. This is my opinion and I can’t completely prove it, but, I think top recruits just don’t want to play for SU and Boeheim now. I think once he’s out and a new coach with a buzz and a pulse is hired, they will come. The Dome will be a more attractive place too. These current high school kids don’t know the glory days. Our pros aren’t doing much. The system is stale. We’ve been a bubble team or an ugly team to watch for most of these young players’ lives once they became serious about basketball. I think the ISO offense and the slow pace with Frank Howard killed us. Frank Howard also was a major problem behind the scenes keeping a couple of recruits from us by bullying them on visits. That behavior spreads like a bad game of telephone. More kids than not just don’t want to play Zone 24-7. PFs and Cs? Why would they come here when they see inept bigs year after year set bad screens, roll, and not get the ball. Of course they can’t do much with it but still! Is coach going to show recruits tape of Rak Christmas? Who is Rakeem Christmas to them? I’m not sure if our lack of physicality is a factor as well from an optics and perception standpoint either. You have a surly and stubborn coach who can’t develop a bench either. I, too, think Braswell and Goodine CAN’T contribute and wouldn’t play them either but I didn’t recruit them and build this team! I also think that some H.S./AAU coaches just simply don’t want their kids playing for Boeheim. The botched Hopkins succession, scheme, or a bunch of other reasons. Chris Baird can get a 5* PG from Cali to come to Lubbock, TX. Location isn’t an issue. We need to scrap it all fast and bring a new staff in. Prove that we play in a fun system and environment. Then they will come. But, yeah, I don’t have much faith in improving much with the recruits coming in and our current players. If Hughes bolts then how the hell will we score?! The ACC will be better next season!
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Post by deano on Dec 26, 2019 11:19:25 GMT -5
It's funny how some of the fools that banned you guys are realizing how wrong they were and you guys were right.
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Post by JazzNC on Dec 26, 2019 11:39:29 GMT -5
I really don’t understand how we recruit anymore. Do we really think going into 2020 with Sidibe, Jesse, and JBA is going to be sufficient? JB himself said that they need to gain 50 pounds to compete. Who here thinks any of these guys will be ready to play at the level we need them to play by next season? Not me. If the best predictor of the future is the past, I see no reason to believe that any of those guys can be good enough or strong enough in one offseason. Why should I believe that Jesse or JBA can? Marek hasn’t. Sidibe hasn’t. Chukwu didn’t. Shit we had a FIVE star center named Rak who didn’t play really well until his senior season. So why do we think our less heralded guys can develop at a faster rate? It’s flat out crazy if you ask me. Our player development has been very poor, and our strength and conditioning has been non-existent. We needed to prioritize a power forward or center with strength but seem to just take whatever 4 star guy who’s willing to come lately just so we can say we have a highly rated class. Problem is we haven’t had a top 20 ranked class in a very very long time. Yeah this is spot on. A post like this last year got Jazz and me banned from the other site predicting our trouble and struggles. This is my opinion and I can’t completely prove it, but, I think top recruits just don’t want to play for SU and Boeheim now. I think once he’s out and a new coach with a buzz and a pulse is hired, they will come. The Dome will be a more attractive place too. These current high school kids don’t know the glory days. Our pros aren’t doing much. The system is stale. We’ve been a bubble team or an ugly team to watch for most of these young players’ lives once they became serious about basketball. I think the ISO offense and the slow pace with Frank Howard killed us. Frank Howard also was a major problem behind the scenes keeping a couple of recruits from us by bullying them on visits. That behavior spreads like a bad game of telephone. More kids than not just don’t want to play Zone 24-7. PFs and Cs? Why would they come here when they see inept bigs year after year set bad screens, roll, and not get the ball. Of course they can’t do much with it but still! Is coach going to show recruits tape of Rak Christmas? Who is Rakeem Christmas to them? I’m not sure if our lack of physicality is a factor as well from an optics and perception standpoint either. You have a surly and stubborn coach who can’t develop a bench either. I, too, think Braswell and Goodine CAN’T contribute and wouldn’t play them either but I didn’t recruit them and build this team! I also think that some H.S./AAU coaches just simply don’t want their kids playing for Boeheim. The botched Hopkins succession, scheme, or a bunch of other reasons. Chris Baird can get a 5* PG from Cali to come to Lubbock, TX. Location isn’t an issue. We need to scrap it all fast and bring a new staff in. Prove that we play in a fun system and environment. Then they will come. But, yeah, I don’t have much faith in improving much with the recruits coming in and our current players. If Hughes bolts then how the hell will we score?! The ACC will be better next season! Thank you Tomcat for posting what Sobe and I got banned for saying. And Sobe, you’re absolutely right about the perception of the program with coaches and high school players now. It’s stale. I do think JB is trying to play up and down GS Warriors style ball, but we have no Draymond Green. We have no muscle, and Buddy and JG3 lack athleticism and hops to blow by anyone. I also agree that SU will bounce back in a big way with the right hire, when JB finally concedes that his time is up and retires, or Wildhack grows a set of balls, and forces retirement.
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Post by JazzNC on Dec 26, 2019 11:42:26 GMT -5
It's funny how some of the fools that banned you guys are realizing how wrong they were and you guys were right. Bees and some of those other fools can eat shit. Sobe and I were right.
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Post by JazzNC on Dec 26, 2019 22:33:13 GMT -5
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Post by sobecuse on Dec 27, 2019 1:36:55 GMT -5
Haha. I saw that. There are a few threads actually where the mod Jake is setting people straight regarding how down we are as program. Some homers just choose to not listen. Yeah, I think JB could be trying to play GS style but that can only work against the Patriot League types and some lowly mid-majors. Like you say, against good teams we don’t have the guards to take you off the bounce or a good big man.
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Post by deano on Dec 27, 2019 8:33:59 GMT -5
It's pretty sad when you are getting out recruited and out coached by your former assistant.
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Post by rustyorange on Dec 28, 2019 21:12:52 GMT -5
It's funny how some of the fools that banned you guys are realizing how wrong they were and you guys were right. Bees and some of those other fools can eat shit. Sobe and I were right. Preach it bro!
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Post by tomcatcuse on Dec 29, 2019 8:04:23 GMT -5
Yeah this is spot on. A post like this last year got Jazz and me banned from the other site predicting our trouble and struggles. This is my opinion and I can’t completely prove it, but, I think top recruits just don’t want to play for SU and Boeheim now. I think once he’s out and a new coach with a buzz and a pulse is hired, they will come. The Dome will be a more attractive place too. These current high school kids don’t know the glory days. Our pros aren’t doing much. The system is stale. We’ve been a bubble team or an ugly team to watch for most of these young players’ lives once they became serious about basketball. I think the ISO offense and the slow pace with Frank Howard killed us. Frank Howard also was a major problem behind the scenes keeping a couple of recruits from us by bullying them on visits. That behavior spreads like a bad game of telephone. More kids than not just don’t want to play Zone 24-7. PFs and Cs? Why would they come here when they see inept bigs year after year set bad screens, roll, and not get the ball. Of course they can’t do much with it but still! Is coach going to show recruits tape of Rak Christmas? Who is Rakeem Christmas to them? I’m not sure if our lack of physicality is a factor as well from an optics and perception standpoint either. You have a surly and stubborn coach who can’t develop a bench either. I, too, think Braswell and Goodine CAN’T contribute and wouldn’t play them either but I didn’t recruit them and build this team! I also think that some H.S./AAU coaches just simply don’t want their kids playing for Boeheim. The botched Hopkins succession, scheme, or a bunch of other reasons. Chris Baird can get a 5* PG from Cali to come to Lubbock, TX. Location isn’t an issue. We need to scrap it all fast and bring a new staff in. Prove that we play in a fun system and environment. Then they will come. But, yeah, I don’t have much faith in improving much with the recruits coming in and our current players. If Hughes bolts then how the hell will we score?! The ACC will be better next season! Thank you Tomcat for posting what Sobe and I got banned for saying. And Sobe, you’re absolutely right about the perception of the program with coaches and high school players now. It’s stale. I do think JB is trying to play up and down GS Warriors style ball, but we have no Draymond Green. We have no muscle, and Buddy and JG3 lack athleticism and hops to blow by anyone. I also agree that SU will bounce back in a big way with the right hire, when JB finally concedes that his time is up and retires, or Wildhack grows a set of balls, and forces retirement. You’re welcome. I didn’t post anything that I didn’t believe is true. Our recruiting is truly dumbfounding. We apparently can only recruit beanpoles. Is this a new SU prerequisite?
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Post by sobecuse on Dec 29, 2019 17:30:54 GMT -5
Thank you Tomcat for posting what Sobe and I got banned for saying. And Sobe, you’re absolutely right about the perception of the program with coaches and high school players now. It’s stale. I do think JB is trying to play up and down GS Warriors style ball, but we have no Draymond Green. We have no muscle, and Buddy and JG3 lack athleticism and hops to blow by anyone. I also agree that SU will bounce back in a big way with the right hire, when JB finally concedes that his time is up and retires, or Wildhack grows a set of balls, and forces retirement. You’re welcome. I didn’t post anything that I didn’t believe is true. Our recruiting is truly dumbfounding. We apparently can only recruit beanpoles. Is this a new SU prerequisite? I think those beanpoles are a targeted approach and we also miss out on the elite beanpoles so the beanpoles further down the trough are very raw and projects. Precisely what we have been seeing. Go back and watch that Boeheim presser I posted somewhere about the Baylor tourney game. The female reporter asks him a bunch of questions about the Zone and he gets testy. He said that they can get by with thinner and less physical guys. No!! He’s complaining about their weight now! WTF is that?! Dementia setting in?
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