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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 21:00:42 GMT -5
This is the change JB needs to make immediately in this stretch run if they want any shot at the NCAA tourney. I couldn't believe he took as long as he did to put him in over Joe in the first half. It became immediately apparent that defense was going to be the priority tonight with the way Duke began shooting. I don't understand what the f this coach is thinking sometimes.
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Post by sobecuse on Feb 23, 2021 1:12:50 GMT -5
Yeah we’re getting buried in these games early. Joe isn’t trash but he would be the 4th guard (and a good one) on a nice team. It’s poor coaching to put the ball in his hands and expect him to dribble around against elite guards. He’s a short and stocky 2G. His handle is adequate enough for spot duty and he did save us last year from the Jalen Carey debacle. That was last year. If all went well and according to plan, Joe would be behind Carey and Goodine. Kadary needs to start.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Feb 23, 2021 9:13:51 GMT -5
This one is as clear as day. And honestly if Joe wanted to transfer to a Gonzaga or Michigan and flourish off the bench as the Ryan Mcmahon Louisville role I absolutely think he could. 15 min a game and hunt his shot around elite talent. But the lead guard on a team with the middle of the road talent in the ACC is out of the question.
Thing is he was not this awful last year. I think Eli was a much more capable handler than Alan is at the moment so that alleviated a lot of his true "PG/ lead guard" duites.
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Post by sobecuse on Feb 23, 2021 10:24:37 GMT -5
This one is as clear as day. And honestly if Joe wanted to transfer to a Gonzaga or Michigan and flourish off the bench as the Ryan Mcmahon Louisville role I absolutely think he could. 15 min a game and hunt his shot around elite talent. But the lead guard on a team with the middle of the road talent in the ACC is out of the question. Thing is he was not this awful last year. I think Eli was a much more capable handler than Alan is at the moment so that alleviated a lot of his true "PG/ lead guard" duites. Yep. Good points. Also think he could thrive in a RMcMahon role. Nothing wrong with that. He lit us up and other teams too. I think there is something to that re: Hughes. Hughes did also bring the ball up against pressure from time to time and was a tougher guard than Buddy or Alan. More attention his way. Joe was also in better shape last year and played with more swagger. Not sure how JB can keep doing what he is doing. Some of this is coaching and JB is not getting out of his own way.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Feb 23, 2021 10:33:39 GMT -5
Alan looks a lot like Eli in his first year in my opinion. Smooth shooter who has some bounce, but really can't do much off the dribble. Eli also had a bulkier frame to rebound down low in the zone.
Difference is Eli obviously took a huge step and really refined a tight handle and was able to make plays off the dribble. Led to getting drafted obviously. I would hope Alan would be able to do the same if he sticks around. Everyone seems to mention that him and QG are gone this year. My question is, where the hell are they going?
No sense in transferring. Not sure they'd want to just voluntarily go overseas without taking a stab at the NBA. Is the G league more attractive than trying to come back, be all conference and be a 2nd round pick who can try and battle for bench minutes.
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Post by sobecuse on Feb 23, 2021 17:51:26 GMT -5
Alan looks a lot like Eli in his first year in my opinion. Smooth shooter who has some bounce, but really can't do much off the dribble. Eli also had a bulkier frame to rebound down low in the zone. Difference is Eli obviously took a huge step and really refined a tight handle and was able to make plays off the dribble. Led to getting drafted obviously. I would hope Alan would be able to do the same if he sticks around. Everyone seems to mention that him and QG are gone this year. My question is, where the hell are they going? No sense in transferring. Not sure they'd want to just voluntarily go overseas without taking a stab at the NBA. Is the G league more attractive than trying to come back, be all conference and be a 2nd round pick who can try and battle for bench minutes. Yeah I forget occasionally that Eli had some limitations his first year playing. The improvement he made was really something. I don’t think many saw that coming. Agree on the frame too. Yeah hopefully Griffin stays and makes the same leap. Hopefully he doesn’t hate the Zone. Q will be 22 I believe in May. He may want to leave now. Obviously he’s not ready but maybe he’ll want to play in France or something haha. I just have a bad feeling that there is going to be another huge roster turnover in the offseason and we‘ll be scrambling to cobble together a roster full of afterthoughts since the better recruits won’t want to come play here. We will be stuck with guys who aren’t ideal Zone fits and/or projects. Rinse ‘n repeat.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Feb 23, 2021 18:27:03 GMT -5
Yea I did not realize Q's age. That for sure plays a factor. But he is not going to be drafted after this year anyway and it is not like the Europe option will be going away so maybe he says one more year see if I can play myself into getting drafted.
Have to think one of JBA or Edwards leaves. If Q and Alan both come back one of Woody and Bras. (Hopefully not Woody). If one of the two comes back potentially still one of Woody or Bras. I cant imagine JB will not start Kadary next year which could lead Joe to moving on as well. Coming off the bench would be best for Joe, but JB would have him get Kadary first and not Buddy so really would not make a difference.
Ideal first 5 next year I'd say Kadary, Buddy, QG, Benny, impact grad transfer (please) or Frank. Let Alan come off the bench and hunt points. I fully give up though if Joe starts at the 1 next year causing Kadary to transfer.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Mar 15, 2021 16:59:11 GMT -5
Does Kadary start against San Diego State? That would be the shocker or all shockers.
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Post by JazzNC on Mar 15, 2021 19:13:36 GMT -5
Does Kadary start against San Diego State? That would be the shocker or all shockers. I don’t think he’ll start because of the injury, and because the wound to Joe’s ego... we need Joe playing with swag. I actually think this is a game that Joe can play a big role in... he will have a 5’8” guy guarding him.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Mar 16, 2021 8:26:35 GMT -5
Kadary will certainly not start. Say what you want about JB but one thing is he is loyal. Joe is not the first guy to start for 3 minutes and get pulled. Look at Dejuan Coleman in 2016. He was a senior who went through hell with his injuries and JB would not have Lydon start over him.
JB mentioned after the NC state game I think that Joe really saved us last year. (Which is true bc we just did not have a serviceable PG it just all relative because we were still an NIT team). I also think that Joe is really defensive of Buddy to a lot of the noise he gets, sure JB values that for better or for worse.
With that being that if Kadary does not start next year we riot.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Mar 17, 2021 6:06:59 GMT -5
Does Kadary start against San Diego State? That would be the shocker or all shockers. I don’t think he’ll start because of the injury, and because the wound to Joe’s ego... we need Joe playing with swag. I actually think this is a game that Joe can play a big role in... he will have a 5’8” guy guarding him. Yeah, I've never been all that down on any player. Mostly just the PT - I think Joe has shown he can get it done against certain teams. He has his struggles, but like Marek I feel like we should use him more/less depending on match up.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Mar 17, 2021 6:08:40 GMT -5
Kadary will certainly not start. Say what you want about JB but one thing is he is loyal. Joe is not the first guy to start for 3 minutes and get pulled. Look at Dejuan Coleman in 2016. He was a senior who went through hell with his injuries and JB would not have Lydon start over him. JB mentioned after the NC state game I think that Joe really saved us last year. (Which is true bc we just did not have a serviceable PG it just all relative because we were still an NIT team). I also think that Joe is really defensive of Buddy to a lot of the noise he gets, sure JB values that for better or for worse. With that being that if Kadary does not start next year we riot. Yeah, I couldn't really see it happening either. I may still be in shock that we had one game where Kadary came out starting the second half. I do think it's way too risky to start him, as often the offense seems to have the wheels come off early with Buddy/Joe out there early, but of late it has not been so bad.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Mar 17, 2021 8:21:39 GMT -5
I mean I think Kadary should start and wish he would. It is just not going to happen. Not how JB operates.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Mar 18, 2021 14:10:02 GMT -5
I mean I think Kadary should start and wish he would. It is just not going to happen. Not how JB operates. Agreed. It would sit better with me if the offense did not seem as susceptible to going completely stagnant without him. There are times where it seems like we start a half with lots of threes and it just filters down to Griffin, Marek, and all of a sudden we're in a huge hole. Starting Kadary limits that. I don't blame Joe for it, it's just sort of the nature of JG/Buddy against pressure D and their inability to create so we end up settling for shots to see if anyone is hot early. If they are - fantastic. If they are not - early 10 point deficit.
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