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Post by mikedamone on Apr 5, 2021 13:06:35 GMT -5
Fully expect Frank to move on now and who knows if this causes Jesse to re-evaluate. I also fully expect Sidibe's knee to blow up again in game 1. He should have been thanked for his contributions and politely asked to leave. He's not even that good when healthy which he never is. Should have just rolled with Jesse and Frank.
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Post by bowery14 on Apr 5, 2021 13:37:48 GMT -5
I do not understand this one
Sidibe seems like a good guy, and you have to respect his effort to get back
At the end though he's pretty broken down and Jim relying on him again could spell disaster
If he comes back, we don't lose anyone, and we go in expecting anything more than zero minutes out of him we could be fine at the 5.
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Post by cusefan2016 on Apr 5, 2021 14:05:19 GMT -5
Not sure if this really impacts Frank. If he feels the need to move on because of this I think that says a lot about him as a player. In an ideal world Sidbe is coming back to get another free year of education, get his masters, and be a good presence on the roster. Maybe give us a couple of minutes here and there. I just cant see him being healthy or providing consistent double/double production like he did down the stretch pre covid shutdown.
Certainly hope jesse is still the first look at the 5 with Frank right there if hes back. Or maybe if Sid does prove valuable Frank playing the 4.
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Post by deano on Apr 5, 2021 17:09:13 GMT -5
Agree with most of you that staff should have said, thanks for all you've done but not going to bring you back. We all see where this is headed again, the kid has had maybe one full season where he's been healthy. If he's got reoccurring knee problems what makes you think that's it's gotten better. Let Jesse and Frank play and if you want to bring in another quality center from portal go for it.
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Post by JazzNC on Apr 5, 2021 17:34:22 GMT -5
If they’re taking Sidibe back to let him be a role model, practice player, and get a Masters fine. But if they expect anything out of him, or play him ahead of Jesse and Frank it’s ludicrous. We need these young guys to stay. Heaven knows we can’t recruit Bigs worth shit.
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Post by bowery14 on Apr 5, 2021 18:12:31 GMT -5
This is my concern though. JB seemed to really be relying on Sidibe to be useful this year to the detriment of developing an option outside of Marek.
I would hate to see us down that path again. I know people will say we're not going to do that, but we did it this year. We seem to make a lot of strange roster decisions. I just think we would be better cutting ties and moving on.
I really have no issue if he comes back just to be a guy on the roster, but I wonder if that's where we go thoug
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Post by Lucas Lee on Apr 7, 2021 6:40:26 GMT -5
This is my concern though. JB seemed to really be relying on Sidibe to be useful this year to the detriment of developing an option outside of Marek. I would hate to see us down that path again. I know people will say we're not going to do that, but we did it this year. We seem to make a lot of strange roster decisions. I just think we would be better cutting ties and moving on. I really have no issue if he comes back just to be a guy on the roster, but I wonder if that's where we go thoug I can see this. However, with the extra year development for Frank/Jesse, even if we do rely on him perhaps we're better positioned to pivot away from him.
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Post by sobecuse on Apr 8, 2021 15:05:06 GMT -5
This is my concern though. JB seemed to really be relying on Sidibe to be useful this year to the detriment of developing an option outside of Marek. I would hate to see us down that path again. I know people will say we're not going to do that, but we did it this year. We seem to make a lot of strange roster decisions. I just think we would be better cutting ties and moving on. I really have no issue if he comes back just to be a guy on the roster, but I wonder if that's where we go thoug I can see this. However, with the extra year development for Frank/Jesse, even if we do rely on him perhaps we're better positioned to pivot away from him. One can hope. Yeah, like Jazz, I’d prefer Sidibe to be more of a mentor to these youngins. That way JB HAS to play these youngins. They just aren’t going to get better riding the pine in favor of Sidibe just because he may know the defense better. I doubt Sidibe has the ideal mobility and lift anymore but we’ll see.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Apr 9, 2021 6:30:52 GMT -5
I can see this. However, with the extra year development for Frank/Jesse, even if we do rely on him perhaps we're better positioned to pivot away from him. One can hope. Yeah, like Jazz, I’d prefer Sidibe to be more of a mentor to these youngins. That way JB HAS to play these youngins. They just aren’t going to get better riding the pine in favor of Sidibe just because he may know the defense better. I doubt Sidibe has the ideal mobility and lift anymore but we’ll see. I would even be tremendously shocked to hear he looks good, seems fine - nevertheless, that's always been the case. I don't know, feels like a fool me twice scenario. Even when he was good it seemed like it was never more than just for a short stretch. A few weeks of solid play, but I don't rememeber any sustained excellence. He is strong enough to compete though, something we lack.
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Post by bowery14 on Apr 9, 2021 23:00:39 GMT -5
I think like sobecuse said our best option is that sidibe can act as a mentor to the younger guys. i never thought he was all that mobile, but if he lacks lift and further loss os mobility i doubt he offers up too much outside of providing counsel to the youngsters
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Post by JazzNC on Apr 16, 2021 10:25:35 GMT -5
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Post by cusefan2016 on Apr 16, 2021 10:29:12 GMT -5
Not sure he would lie about that. Could be a number of different reasons as to why they did not say it during the season. Hope Frank stays no doubt but another healthy body who can board is not a bad thing.
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Post by JazzNC on Apr 16, 2021 11:36:00 GMT -5
Not sure he would lie about that. Could be a number of different reasons as to why they did not say it during the season. Hope Frank stays no doubt but another healthy body who can board is not a bad thing. Why wouldn’t they say it was a knee infection? I see not one valid reason, except for not wanting to admit it was the wrong approach, and throw the surgeon under the bus. Sidibe has played about grand total of five good games in his career. I wish we had let him go. Mark my words, Frank and or Jesse will leave if Sidibe plays ahead of them, and that would be a travesty because Sidibe will not remain healthy next season. Book it.
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Post by Lucas Lee on Apr 16, 2021 12:02:23 GMT -5
Not sure he would lie about that. Could be a number of different reasons as to why they did not say it during the season. Hope Frank stays no doubt but another healthy body who can board is not a bad thing. Why wouldn’t they say it was a knee infection? I see not one valid reason, except for not wanting to admit it was the wrong approach, and throw the surgeon under the bus. Sidibe has played about grand total of five good games in his career. I wish we had let him go. Mark my words, Frank and or Jesse will leave if Sidibe plays ahead of them, and that would be a travesty because Sidibe will not remain healthy next season. Book it. I think about that sometimes. I think we give our program, and occasion, the players too much credit for the short stints of greatness they show. Win a couple tourney games - all woeful in-season performances are forgiven. Even though we're not really a candidate to make the FF without some serious luck with match-ups. I like Sid, but he really had a couple weeks here or there. It's rather the same with Buddy, he had a hot 2 week spell which somehow made 20-21 an epic year, but mostly he's proven to be streaky at best. Etc....etc....
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Post by cusefan2016 on Apr 16, 2021 12:25:56 GMT -5
Would think could be a number of different of things like privacy matters etc. I have zero clue. Who knows maybe the infection is a lie. But if Sidbe in their opinion really couldn't play because of physical limitations I do no think they would have him back to get actual minutes.
In regards to Frank/Jesse/Sidbe I suppose I hope the best 2 play and get majority of minutes. Agreed Sidbe does not have a serious body of work. But after having to see Marek play out of position at Center, and probably being smaller and less athletic on the wings with Cole and Jimmy I think any big physical presence we can have is worth a shot.
I guess the way I view it. Lets say Sidbe left and we had Jesse and Frank at the 5. If Jesse continued to progress and started/played 28 mpg with Frank getting 12. Jesse would still have his senior left. Frank would probably leave in that instance anyway.
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