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Post by JazzNC on May 20, 2021 2:52:01 GMT -5
Oshae Brissett’s success this year has been awesome. He was the leading scorer in Indiana’s play-in game against Charlotte. He hit threes, went to the hole strong and played incredible basketball. I’m super happy to watch him develop. Now that Charlotte, my hometown is out, I’ll be pulling for Oshae/Pacers and Carmelo/Trailblazers. I would love to see anyone but the Lakers win.
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Post by cusefan2016 on May 20, 2021 8:41:02 GMT -5
BUT KIDS CANT DEVELOP AND GET TO THE LEAGUE PLAYING IN THE ZONE.
In all seriousness that was a narrative I never understood. The kids mostly get drafted or a shot in the league on upside and physical tools. Oshae has both and it is great to see him having success.
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Post by sobecuse on May 20, 2021 11:19:38 GMT -5
BUT KIDS CANT DEVELOP AND GET TO THE LEAGUE PLAYING IN THE ZONE. In all seriousness that was a narrative I never understood. The kids mostly get drafted or a shot in the league on upside and physical tools. Oshae has both and it is great to see him having success. Well, truthfully, many of our players have been poor individual defenders in the NBA. Only Jason Hart, occasionally Wes Johnson, Etan Thomas, and MCW have been good defenders in the league I can think of ALL the SU players drafted. Grant too. It is what it is. In fact, the former Suns Dir of Basketball Operations who is on NBA TV or ESPN during draft time said he avoids Syracuse players altogether. He called them “traffic cops” LOL. But, at the time it was no surprise Brissett was undrafted. He became a historically inefficient player his SO year, 3pt shooting declined, and he couldn’t finish at the rim. The true narrative is that you CAN improve in the NBA (JB has said you often can’t do that) and OB has proved you can. So has Grant.
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Post by cusefan2016 on May 20, 2021 12:11:37 GMT -5
I just think a guys defensive performance in the nba has everything to do with their physical tools and mostly effort, not 1-4 years playing zone in college. Coach K has always played a pressure ball denying man to man (when he’s not in JB’s zone) and not sure how many duke kids are known for their D.
As you said of course you can improve in the NBA, so of course a kid can improve as a defender going from zone to man. The only reason I brought it up is because I view the narrative “kids don’t want to play in the zone because it hurts their nba prospects” as silly. And if it is a reason, I just don’t think it makes much sense.
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Post by sobecuse on May 24, 2021 9:28:36 GMT -5
I just think a guys defensive performance in the nba has everything to do with their physical tools and mostly effort, not 1-4 years playing zone in college. Coach K has always played a pressure ball denying man to man (when he’s not in JB’s zone) and not sure how many duke kids are known for their D. As you said of course you can improve in the NBA, so of course a kid can improve as a defender going from zone to man. The only reason I brought it up is because I view the narrative “kids don’t want to play in the zone because it hurts their nba prospects” as silly. And if it is a reason, I just don’t think it makes much sense. I think with the Duke guys it just means that they ‘check all the boxes’ in terms of being coached up with solid M2M concepts, foundation, and schemes. There isn’t a worry really or gamble on that end. Much different in evaluating the SU players. As mentioned before, where there is smoke there is probably fire. Fair or unfair, many kids just don’t want to play in an All-Zone system. We already know how it has really hurt us in C recruiting. With the NBA, that stigma is out there and it doesn’t help that many of our guys haven’t translated well to the NBA on the defensive side of the ball. It is what it is. If Amin Elhassan was calling our guys “traffic cops” then probably others are too.
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