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Post by Ghost on Apr 2, 2024 22:19:39 GMT -5
LUMPKIN!
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Post by two3zone on Apr 2, 2024 22:25:10 GMT -5
Swap Mintz and add a backup 4/5 who can rebound and block shots, Westry in the mix, still have our freshman guard who can be eased in. I’m getting more excited than I have been in a long time.
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Post by upstatesm on Apr 3, 2024 10:23:43 GMT -5
We are basically putting next season's success on the shoulder's of Donnie Freeman and maaaan is that a risk that I don't think that we should be taking. The "we need draft picks" thing is something I don't buy into for a couple of reasons, too. We need to win more than anything else and we are making a freshman carry a heavy load. I hope it works out but I just don't think that is how you win in modern college basketball
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Post by mikesu02 on Apr 3, 2024 10:26:46 GMT -5
We are basically putting next season's success on the shoulder's of Donnie Freeman and maaaan is that a risk that I don't think that we should be taking. The "we need draft picks" thing is something I don't buy into for a couple of reasons, too. We need to win more than anything else and we are making a freshman carry a heavy load. I hope it works out but I just don't think that is how you win in modern college basketball I don't disagree we need to get guys in the NBA, but you don't do that in lieu of winning. And you need to be a winning program to get guys.
I really like Donnie, but the over-valuing of his abilities is crazy.
If he were what people think he is, he'd be a top 5 pick in 2025, but he is not.
He's sold with upside. Has the measureables and is fluid. But this guy isn't a savior.
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Post by alsacs on Apr 3, 2024 10:45:49 GMT -5
Our fanbase has been gaslighted and beaten down so much all it can do is spin for the best possible outcome. I like Freeman but I don’t see Kevin Love or Chris Bosh as a college freshman in his game. It’s almost like people have stopped watching college basketball around the country. Kentucky had Dillingham, Wagner and Shepherd and while they won some games they couldn’t defend a chair and got bounced in their conference and NCAAT in one game.
Freshman aren’t impact guys as much the last decade. It’s upper classmen and elite guard play. Which is why getting rid of Mintz is our biggest issue. Red needs to hit on good PGs, wings that can make shots and a big who can get a bunch and prevent easy baskets around the rim.
Lampkin is a nice piece. An ideal team has Freeman, Brown and Lampkin as part of a rotation.
Again we don’t need 35+ mpg players unless they are actually good.
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Post by JazzNC on Apr 3, 2024 10:47:41 GMT -5
Our fanbase has been gaslighted and beaten down so much all it can do is spin for the best possible outcome. I like Freeman but I don’t see Kevin Love or Chris Bosh as a college freshman in his game. It’s almost like people have stopped watching college basketball around the country. Kentucky had Dillingham, Wagner and Shepherd and while they won some games they couldn’t defend a chair and got bounced in their conference and NCAAT in one game. Freshman aren’t impact guys as much the last decade. It’s upper classmen and elite guard play. Which is why getting rid of Mintz is our biggest issue. Red needs to hit on good PGs, wings that can make shots and a big who can get a bunch and prevent easy baskets around the rim. Lampkin is a nice piece. An ideal team has Freeman, Brown and Lampkin as part of a rotation. Again we don’t need 35+ mpg players unless they are actually good. I agree we need a really good PG. Doesn’t sound promising if you read Dasher’s last post.
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Post by cusefan0307 on Apr 3, 2024 11:13:29 GMT -5
We are basically putting next season's success on the shoulder's of Donnie Freeman and maaaan is that a risk that I don't think that we should be taking. The "we need draft picks" thing is something I don't buy into for a couple of reasons, too. We need to win more than anything else and we are making a freshman carry a heavy load. I hope it works out but I just don't think that is how you win in modern college basketball If Carlos ends up being the point guard I am going to lose it over there and seriously start to question if Red knows what he’s doing.
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Post by hofceluck on Apr 3, 2024 11:15:33 GMT -5
Joe Girard:Boeheim::JJ:Red
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Post by JazzNC on Apr 3, 2024 11:16:20 GMT -5
We are basically putting next season's success on the shoulder's of Donnie Freeman and maaaan is that a risk that I don't think that we should be taking. The "we need draft picks" thing is something I don't buy into for a couple of reasons, too. We need to win more than anything else and we are making a freshman carry a heavy load. I hope it works out but I just don't think that is how you win in modern college basketball If Carlos ends up being the point guard I am going to lose it over there and seriously start to question if Red knows what he’s doing. Carlos played well against Duke. Nearly a double double. Far cry from Mack though… I hear ya. I view Carlos as a John Gillon type guy. Not great, but he will keep us in the game, is coachable, and will play the right way. I’m thinking it’s a package deal… Carlos and Dubar from Hofstra. No inside info, just a guess.
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Post by cusefan0307 on Apr 3, 2024 11:19:05 GMT -5
If Carlos ends up being the point guard I am going to lose it over there and seriously start to question if Red knows what he’s doing. Carlos played well against Duke. Nearly a double double. Far cry from Mack though… I hear ya. I view Carlos as a John Gillon type guy. Not great, but he will keep us in the game, is coachable, and will play the right way. I’m thinking it’s a package deal… Carlos and Dubar from Hofstra. No inside info, just a guess. Gillon was twice the player. He could shoot. Carlos can’t. He and JJ in the backcourt would be terrible. We would be looking at a bottom 5 ACC roster. Red values JJ and Bell way too much.
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Post by JazzNC on Apr 3, 2024 11:26:12 GMT -5
Carlos played well against Duke. Nearly a double double. Far cry from Mack though… I hear ya. I view Carlos as a John Gillon type guy. Not great, but he will keep us in the game, is coachable, and will play the right way. I’m thinking it’s a package deal… Carlos and Dubar from Hofstra. No inside info, just a guess. Gillon was twice the player. He could shoot. Carlos can’t. He and JJ in the backcourt would be terrible. We would be looking at a bottom 5 ACC roster. Red values JJ and Bell way too much. Carlos shot 34% from 3, and 89% from the free throw line this year at Hofstra. He’s not a scorer, but those numbers don’t reflect a bad shooter.
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Post by upstatesm on Apr 3, 2024 11:29:24 GMT -5
We are basically putting next season's success on the shoulder's of Donnie Freeman and maaaan is that a risk that I don't think that we should be taking. The "we need draft picks" thing is something I don't buy into for a couple of reasons, too. We need to win more than anything else and we are making a freshman carry a heavy load. I hope it works out but I just don't think that is how you win in modern college basketball If Carlos ends up being the point guard I am going to lose it over there and seriously start to question if Red knows what he’s doing. If that is the roster that we put together and we miss the tournament, there shouldn't even be a discussion about year three. If you can't manage a roster, you can't be a head coach. Full stop. Somehow this keeps getting worse.
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Post by cusefan0307 on Apr 3, 2024 11:31:26 GMT -5
Gillon was twice the player. He could shoot. Carlos can’t. He and JJ in the backcourt would be terrible. We would be looking at a bottom 5 ACC roster. Red values JJ and Bell way too much. Carlos shot 34% from 3, and 89% from the free throw line this year at Hofstra. He’s not a scorer, but those numbers don’t reflect a bad shooter. Gillon shot 40% here. JJ can’t shoot. We need a knockdown shooter at the point.
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Post by JazzNC on Apr 3, 2024 11:36:52 GMT -5
Carlos shot 34% from 3, and 89% from the free throw line this year at Hofstra. He’s not a scorer, but those numbers don’t reflect a bad shooter. Gillon shot 40% here. JJ can’t shoot. We need a knockdown shooter at the point. JJ’s shooting improved as he got healthier, though hardly a 3 point sniper. As for Gillon, the year before he came to Syracuse he shot 33.3%, less than Carlos. Don’t get me wrong, I’d much rather a better PG than Carlos, but I do think he’s serviceable.
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Post by hofceluck on Apr 3, 2024 11:42:59 GMT -5
Gillon shot 40% here. JJ can’t shoot. We need a knockdown shooter at the point. JJ’s shooting improved as he got healthier, though hardly a 3 point sniper. As for Gillon, the year before he came to Syracuse he shot 33.3%, less than Carlos. Don’t get me wrong, I’d much rather a better PG than Carlos, but I do think he’s serviceable. If you take out his abysmal 1/18 from three to start the season he shot 36 percent which…isn’t terrible!
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