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Post by hofceluck on Jan 4, 2024 14:16:32 GMT -5
Good job twothree with that angry thread. It completely in capsules the state of the Syracuse fanbase. The end of the Boeheim era destroyed our fanbase and split it in half. My friend orangecuse who is one of the best completely backhanded Bees in a manner that Bees can’t touch him with. The CTO group who are TomCat, Cherie, OX and Bees ran our board like it was a Soviet gulag the past 10 years. They censor opinions and the frustrated were treated like anti fans when the program was Cratering because of the head coach. The tide finally broke on the damn when Jimmy Jr. came in. They continued censoring but the fanbase wanting change became larger. Last year was a joke and Boeheim’s arrogance with his mouth finally did him in. If Boeheim wasn’t an idiot in opening his mouth about Wake and fanbase support and just continuing to put his foot in His mouth he is still the HC. He was fired but instead of calling it that they smartly packaged it as a retirement. He wanted his money for this season which he was owed. RF told me 2 years ago that Boeheim had signed a 2 year extension thru the 2023-2024 season. Once the AD gave him his money he played nice in the transition as remember originally he was quiet but that Thursday after we lost in the ACC when we got back to Syracuse he was given assurance he would get paid his contract as he should have honestly. But your thread is why we are in trouble so many years of irrelevance makes a fan care less and less. Now if we are good it will charge up everyone but the apathy is going to be there until we have consecutive really good seasons. We haven’t played a conference game as a ranked team in 10 years. LOL and we have threads on our status as a program. Jim Boeheim did a lot of good but his arrogance did do damage to the program he built up with the Dome, ESPN, Big East in the 1980s. Bees is a bitch who takes people out of context and then thinks he’s being super cute and clever with two or three word replies that only his buddies from tailgates and message boards from twenty years ago understand. I hope he reads this because no one’s gonna delete it.
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Jan 4, 2024 14:39:57 GMT -5
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Post by alsacs on Jan 4, 2024 14:39:57 GMT -5
Good job twothree with that angry thread. It completely in capsules the state of the Syracuse fanbase. The end of the Boeheim era destroyed our fanbase and split it in half. My friend orangecuse who is one of the best completely backhanded Bees in a manner that Bees can’t touch him with. The CTO group who are TomCat, Cherie, OX and Bees ran our board like it was a Soviet gulag the past 10 years. They censor opinions and the frustrated were treated like anti fans when the program was Cratering because of the head coach. The tide finally broke on the damn when Jimmy Jr. came in. They continued censoring but the fanbase wanting change became larger. Last year was a joke and Boeheim’s arrogance with his mouth finally did him in. If Boeheim wasn’t an idiot in opening his mouth about Wake and fanbase support and just continuing to put his foot in His mouth he is still the HC. He was fired but instead of calling it that they smartly packaged it as a retirement. He wanted his money for this season which he was owed. RF told me 2 years ago that Boeheim had signed a 2 year extension thru the 2023-2024 season. Once the AD gave him his money he played nice in the transition as remember originally he was quiet but that Thursday after we lost in the ACC when we got back to Syracuse he was given assurance he would get paid his contract as he should have honestly. But your thread is why we are in trouble so many years of irrelevance makes a fan care less and less. Now if we are good it will charge up everyone but the apathy is going to be there until we have consecutive really good seasons. We haven’t played a conference game as a ranked team in 10 years. LOL and we have threads on our status as a program. Jim Boeheim did a lot of good but his arrogance did do damage to the program he built up with the Dome, ESPN, Big East in the 1980s. Bees is a bitch who takes people out of context and then thinks he’s being super cute and clever with two or three word replies that only his buddies from tailgates and message boards from twenty years ago understand. I hope he reads this because no one’s gonna delete it. He is probably monitoring his police radio for any drama he can follow on it. Bees is one of those guys who thinks he is smartest guy in the room. The smartest people are always the quietest. He censors what he doesn’t like and that is just a problem. I would give him back his shit and he couldn’t do what you said he does to me and that is why he didn’t like him along with the fact I don’t worship at the altar of Boeheim. Bees is a bully and once you punch a bully they know that can’t mess with so he bans and censors because he has power. He is everything he hated about 45. DW rightfully pointed that out previously he behaves a lot like that jackwagon who has divided the country. The first 2 years of Buddy’s career you couldn’t even reference nepotism. Like if you said it was deleted. It wasn’t till year 3 the point could be made but you were a hater. Finally by the last year they couldn’t stop it as obvious. Then the defense of Buddy from Bees when he clearly punched the FSU kid. It was pathetic. Jim Boeheim let his family ruin the program and then because cto can’t read a board with legit criticism and is a friggin BOT member what happened caused bitterness in the fanbase. It’s joke a kid like FloridaFan was banned. Like GFY he is a kid. If anyone posted what she did when Fab Melo died it’s an instant ban but instead it’s cleaned up and nothing happened but Stern is banned. It’s just sad. We as fans deserved better but It’s over now
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Post by hofceluck on Jan 4, 2024 14:42:45 GMT -5
Bees is a bitch who takes people out of context and then thinks he’s being super cute and clever with two or three word replies that only his buddies from tailgates and message boards from twenty years ago understand. I hope he reads this because no one’s gonna delete it. He is probably monitoring his police radio for any drama he can follow on it. Bees is one of those guys who thinks he is smartest guy in the room. The smartest people are always the quietest. He censors what he doesn’t like and that is just a problem. I would give him back his shit and he couldn’t do what you said he does to me and that is why he didn’t like him along with the fact I don’t worship at the altar of Boeheim. Bees is a bully and once you punch a bully they know that can’t mess with so he bans and censors because he has power. He is everything he hated about 45. DW rightfully pointed that out previously he behaves a lot like that jackwagon who has divided the country. 45 broke his brain like Jimmy broke mine.
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Post by orangedw on Jan 4, 2024 21:33:00 GMT -5
Bees is a bitch who takes people out of context and then thinks he’s being super cute and clever with two or three word replies that only his buddies from tailgates and message boards from twenty years ago understand. I hope he reads this because no one’s gonna delete it. He is probably monitoring his police radio for any drama he can follow on it. Bees is one of those guys who thinks he is smartest guy in the room. The smartest people are always the quietest. He censors what he doesn’t like and that is just a problem. I would give him back his shit and he couldn’t do what you said he does to me and that is why he didn’t like him along with the fact I don’t worship at the altar of Boeheim. Bees is a bully and once you punch a bully they know that can’t mess with so he bans and censors because he has power. He is everything he hated about 45. DW rightfully pointed that out previously he behaves a lot like that jackwagon who has divided the country. The first 2 years of Buddy’s career you couldn’t even reference nepotism. Like if you said it was deleted. It wasn’t till year 3 the point could be made but you were a hater. Finally by the last year they couldn’t stop it as obvious. Then the defense of Buddy from Bees when he clearly punched the FSU kid. It was pathetic. Jim Boeheim let his family ruin the program and then because cto can’t read a board with legit criticism and is a friggin BOT member what happened caused bitterness in the fanbase. It’s joke a kid like FloridaFan was banned. Like GFY he is a kid. If anyone posted what she did when Fab Melo died it’s an instant ban but instead it’s cleaned up and nothing happened but Stern is banned. It’s just sad. We as fans deserved better but It’s over now They used to thread ban ghost from game threads when he was posting extra POSITIVE! Who the hell are they to read into his posts and decide he was being sarcastic?
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Post by hofceluck on Jan 4, 2024 21:40:26 GMT -5
He is probably monitoring his police radio for any drama he can follow on it. Bees is one of those guys who thinks he is smartest guy in the room. The smartest people are always the quietest. He censors what he doesn’t like and that is just a problem. I would give him back his shit and he couldn’t do what you said he does to me and that is why he didn’t like him along with the fact I don’t worship at the altar of Boeheim. Bees is a bully and once you punch a bully they know that can’t mess with so he bans and censors because he has power. He is everything he hated about 45. DW rightfully pointed that out previously he behaves a lot like that jackwagon who has divided the country. The first 2 years of Buddy’s career you couldn’t even reference nepotism. Like if you said it was deleted. It wasn’t till year 3 the point could be made but you were a hater. Finally by the last year they couldn’t stop it as obvious. Then the defense of Buddy from Bees when he clearly punched the FSU kid. It was pathetic. Jim Boeheim let his family ruin the program and then because cto can’t read a board with legit criticism and is a friggin BOT member what happened caused bitterness in the fanbase. It’s joke a kid like FloridaFan was banned. Like GFY he is a kid. If anyone posted what she did when Fab Melo died it’s an instant ban but instead it’s cleaned up and nothing happened but Stern is banned. It’s just sad. We as fans deserved better but It’s over now They used to thread ban ghost from game threads when he was posting extra POSITIVE! Who the hell are they to read into his posts and decide he was being sarcastic? I once got banned because I kept using the phrase “well rounded” in posts.
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Post by orangedw on Jan 4, 2024 21:50:05 GMT -5
The damage of Daddyball is going to take some time to get over. Patience is running thin but i didn’t expect much This year. Next year we have to contenders in the conference. It feels like this could be a multiple year rebuild though. Our program just cratered we are completely irrelevant in college basketball landscape like what happened in football. Our brand is weakened. The ACC era for basketball has been giant underachievement and that is on us. Autry is cleaning up the roster but we need more talent and the talent has to play like a team. I can’t say this enough I hate iso ball. It’s not fun to watch and we need to play smart. The 2009-2010 team was the bench mark of enjoyable basketball. They played smart, fast and played fun on offense. It’s sucks what our offense has become. Just chuck or have each player do It themselves. No motion, intelligence in passing or anything but just score. And this is my thing, I expected not to be great, we are probably a little better than I thought we were going to be at least by what the record looks like. My biggest problem with this team is that outside of Brown it’s very difficult for me to like these guys. I don’t know if it’s their attitude, their lack of skill, I don’t know. I do think we’re heading in the right direction with Red, but this transition year is a lot harder than I ever imagined it would be to watch. Just ready to move on from so many players I can’t stand. I can’t help but wonder how good we’d be with Westry. He was supposed to be our best perimeter defender and one of our best overall players, really. I have to think he’d be the starting SF by this point, and would make a big difference.
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Post by two3zone on Jan 5, 2024 10:49:34 GMT -5
And this is my thing, I expected not to be great, we are probably a little better than I thought we were going to be at least by what the record looks like. My biggest problem with this team is that outside of Brown it’s very difficult for me to like these guys. I don’t know if it’s their attitude, their lack of skill, I don’t know. I do think we’re heading in the right direction with Red, but this transition year is a lot harder than I ever imagined it would be to watch. Just ready to move on from so many players I can’t stand. I can’t help but wonder how good we’d be with Westry. He was supposed to be our best perimeter defender and one of our best overall players, really. I have to think he’d be the starting SF by this point, and would make a big difference. I’d like to believe that, but considering he was coming off the bench initially it doesn’t seem like they thought he was good enough to start over Bell and Benny at the time, that’s alarming within itself.
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Post by orangedw on Jan 5, 2024 11:03:33 GMT -5
I can’t help but wonder how good we’d be with Westry. He was supposed to be our best perimeter defender and one of our best overall players, really. I have to think he’d be the starting SF by this point, and would make a big difference. I’d like to believe that, but considering he was coming off the bench initially it doesn’t seem like they thought he was good enough to start over Bell and Benny at the time, that’s alarming within itself. I assumed a big part of that was he had a later start due to the injury he was recovering from? Even before the setback he had early in the season, he was already starting up later than everyone else. Even if Bell started initially, I think Westry would’ve overtaken him by now. Bell hasn’t had a good game in over a month.
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Post by alsacs on Jan 5, 2024 11:15:24 GMT -5
I can’t help but wonder how good we’d be with Westry. He was supposed to be our best perimeter defender and one of our best overall players, really. I have to think he’d be the starting SF by this point, and would make a big difference. I’d like to believe that, but considering he was coming off the bench initially it doesn’t seem like they thought he was good enough to start over Bell and Benny at the time, that’s alarming within itself. I love IthacaMatt just torching the sacred cow and not realizing what your point was. He is a loose cannon who I like even when I disagree with. Our fanbase has come to accept mediocrity. That was your point we don’t care like we used to because it’s become accepted. I get we have history but we are going to lose a generation of fans because of this crap. Ranked games get the juices flowing on campus and build up fans. This isn’t like the NBA where it’s more corporate and passion isn’t really there till the playoffs. As I said the fans who have season tickets like Cusefan0307 or others have spent really insane dollars the past decade and the passion is gone. Westry would help this team. I got no problem being an NIT team this season I just wish our fanbase would actually care again. Boeheim broke this fanbase and Matt laid it out he wasn’t a Boeheim truther. The suppression of the legitimate frustration broke this fanbase. It’s why I get so pissed at Boeheim. His sons weren’t good enough to be the best players on a competitive conference contender in a P5 and Boeheim did it anyway and Matt is right like I said he didn’t give up this year but was forced out.
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Post by hofceluck on Jan 5, 2024 11:34:34 GMT -5
I’d like to believe that, but considering he was coming off the bench initially it doesn’t seem like they thought he was good enough to start over Bell and Benny at the time, that’s alarming within itself. I love IthacaMatt just torching the sacred cow and not realizing what your point was. He is a loose cannon who I like even when I disagree with. Our fanbase has come to accept mediocrity. That was your point we don’t care like we used to because it’s become accepted. I get we have history but we are going to lose a generation of fans because of this crap. Ranked games get the juices flowing on campus and build up fans. This isn’t like the NBA where it’s more corporate and passion isn’t really there till the playoffs. As I said the fans who have season tickets like Cusefan0307 or others have spent really insane dollars the past decade and the passion is gone. Westry would help this team. I got no problem being an NIT team this season I just wish our fanbase would actually care again. Boeheim broke this fanbase and Matt laid it out he wasn’t a Boeheim truther. The suppression of the legitimate frustration broke this fanbase. It’s why I get so pissed at Boeheim. His sons weren’t good enough to be the best players on a competitive conference contender in a P5 and Boeheim did it anyway and Matt is right like I said he didn’t give up this year but was forced out. Matt should have at least been threadbanned for that take. He’s not wrong about daddyball (though I do think you can turn around a basketball team pretty quick)
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Post by day2 on Jan 5, 2024 12:04:03 GMT -5
UCLA is 6-8.
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Post by alsacs on Jan 5, 2024 13:00:15 GMT -5
This season is a success for Syracuse because the expectations are so low. Which again isn’t Red Autry’s fault. UCLA is coming off 3 straight sweet 16s and 1 Final Four while having really exciting regular seasons. It’s not a good comparison. I am okay with not being elite every year because that isn’t fair but UCLA has played conference games as a ranked team the last decade. Joe Girard didn’t play a single game as a member of a ranked Syracuse team. He goes to Clemson and gets it this year and Clemson didn’t start ranked. He never played 1 game at Syracuse on a ranked team in 4 years. Buddy played 2 games as a ranked team at Syracuse his freshman year from a team the previous year went to the sweet 16 and had hype. Then lost those 2 games at MSG and Buddy never played another game at Syracuse on a ranked team. Jim Boeheim as IthacaMatt torched our program and the censoring on the other board lobotomized a good portion of our fanbase. It’s sad. Poor Red really deserves credit for this year and working on the rebuild he has with the fanbase in increasing expectations.
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Post by hofceluck on Jan 5, 2024 13:49:17 GMT -5
What does it say that I completely forgot that UCLA made the final four in 2021
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Post by day2 on Jan 5, 2024 15:33:51 GMT -5
This season is a success for Syracuse because the expectations are so low. Which again isn’t Red Autry’s fault. UCLA is coming off 3 straight sweet 16s and 1 Final Four while having really exciting regular seasons. It’s not a good comparison. I am okay with not being elite every year because that isn’t fair but UCLA has played conference games as a ranked team the last decade. Joe Girard didn’t play a single game as a member of a ranked Syracuse team. He goes to Clemson and gets it this year and Clemson didn’t start ranked. He never played 1 game at Syracuse on a ranked team in 4 years. Buddy played 2 games as a ranked team at Syracuse his freshman year from a team the previous year went to the sweet 16 and had hype. Then lost those 2 games at MSG and Buddy never played another game at Syracuse on a ranked team. Jim Boeheim as IthacaMatt torched our program and the censoring on the other board lobotomized a good portion of our fanbase. It’s sad. Poor Red really deserves credit for this year and working on the rebuild he has with the fanbase in increasing expectations. What seed was UCLA when they made the Final Four?
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Post by two3zone on Jan 5, 2024 16:27:51 GMT -5
I’d like to believe that, but considering he was coming off the bench initially it doesn’t seem like they thought he was good enough to start over Bell and Benny at the time, that’s alarming within itself. I assumed a big part of that was he had a later start due to the injury he was recovering from? Even before the setback he had early in the season, he was already starting up later than everyone else. Even if Bell started initially, I think Westry would’ve overtaken him by now. Bell hasn’t had a good game in over a month. I don’t buy it, if that was the case then the case could be made that Brown and Copeland wouldn’t started over the 3.5 stiffs we have starting now. Maybe I’m just being cynical but I don’t believe anything until I see it when it comes to players. What are the chances the one guy who’s hurt ended up being the best or second best player on the squad. Would we be saying the same thing about Starling if he was hurt all year right now? I’m guessing we would be.
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