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Post by JazzNC on Feb 3, 2024 21:49:41 GMT -5
That’s all.
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Post by mikedamone on Feb 3, 2024 22:03:33 GMT -5
It's always a good idea to hire from within from a team on the decline. And I like JB but you don't hire from within when you have a losing season followed by 17-15 or whatever last year was
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Post by orangedw on Feb 4, 2024 11:00:34 GMT -5
I will withhold judgement. This team can’t shoot, and the one guy who can shoot is the worst defensive player in the history of western civilization and no coach can change those things. The inherited star player doesn’t care about winning and has zero heart.
That is partly why we get blown out - there are simply no answers sometimes with this limited group.
The lack of effort once we get down is concerning, but again - those are holdover cancers from previous years. I will judge him once he’s got his squad and his guys that fit his vision….which needs to start next year.
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Post by floridafan on Feb 4, 2024 11:03:56 GMT -5
I will withhold judgement. This team can’t shoot, and the one guy who can shoot is the worst defensive player in the history of western civilization and no coach can change those things. The inherited star player doesn’t care about winning and has zero heart. That is partly why we get blown out - there are simply no answers sometimes with this limited group. The lack of effort once we get down is concerning, but again - those are holdover cancers from previous years. I will judge him once he’s got his squad and his guys that fit his vision….which needs to start next year. yeah he gets till next year in my book. Ultimately they wont fire till at least the third year but there has to be improvement from the team as a whole. IMO 2 freshman was too small a class, unless we go out and get 4 transfers..
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Post by orangedw on Feb 4, 2024 11:41:19 GMT -5
I will withhold judgement. This team can’t shoot, and the one guy who can shoot is the worst defensive player in the history of western civilization and no coach can change those things. The inherited star player doesn’t care about winning and has zero heart. That is partly why we get blown out - there are simply no answers sometimes with this limited group. The lack of effort once we get down is concerning, but again - those are holdover cancers from previous years. I will judge him once he’s got his squad and his guys that fit his vision….which needs to start next year. yeah he gets till next year in my book. Ultimately they wont fire till at least the third year but there has to be improvement from the team as a whole. IMO 2 freshman was too small a class, unless we go out and get 4 transfers.. Improvement next year, and we need to be “good” in year 3. Like, a solid tourney team.
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Post by Ghost on Feb 4, 2024 12:42:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I can't say impressed, but we also are coming up out of a dumpster fire, so some I'm fine with some leeway as he gets going.
I think the rotations are my big sticking point at the moment. Seems like he's trying to hold steady on some things, that CLEARLY are not working. I wish he would deviate a bit from where we are now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 16:10:59 GMT -5
It's always a good idea to hire from within from a team on the decline. And I like JB but you don't hire from within when you have a losing season followed by 17-15 or whatever last year was Couldn't agree more. Such a ridiculous decision to not open up a power 5 school's head coaching job to the best possible hire. Nope, not at this school with its pussy leadership. For the record I'm of the mindset that you keep all options open when it comes to anything in life, and I'm rooting for Autry, but this is ridiculous. In this situation they hire the 2nd-hand man to the guy who has brought the program down to the abyss these last 8+ years? Honestly I feel that Autry was a DEI hire with no care to see what else was out there. They've had those racial incidents on campus these last few years and it was all too convenient to hire the minority currently on the roster when there were multiple coaches out there with much better experience and acumen for the job. Look at what hiring outside the program did for these schools.... Danny Hurley @uconn, Nate Oats @alabama, etc etc.. Someone tell me another logical reason why you make this hire without looking at what else is out there, without interviewing anybody else?
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Post by orangedw on Feb 4, 2024 17:33:37 GMT -5
It's always a good idea to hire from within from a team on the decline. And I like JB but you don't hire from within when you have a losing season followed by 17-15 or whatever last year was Couldn't agree more. Such a ridiculous decision to not open up a power 5 school's head coaching job to the best possible hire. Nope, not at this school with its pussy leadership. For the record I'm of the mindset that you keep all options open when it comes to anything in life, and I'm rooting for Autry, but this is ridiculous. In this situation they hire the 2nd-hand man to the guy who has brought the program down to the abyss these last 8+ years? Honestly I feel that Autry was a DEI hire with no care to see what else was out there. They've had those racial incidents on campus these last few years and it was all too convenient to hire the minority currently on the roster when there were multiple coaches out there with much better experience and acumen for the job. Look at what hiring outside the program did for these schools.... Danny Hurley @uconn, Nate Oats @alabama, etc etc.. Someone tell me another logical reason why you make this hire without looking at what else is out there, without interviewing anybody else? Sad mentality. it was about color - the color Orange. They hired the most qualified alum. SU has a special situation where so many former players are still close to the program. There’s only a couple programs with the same type of “family” aspect. Im sure most would rather win with Red than a dickhead like Hurley or Oates, too. By the way, Hurley went 16-17 his first year at UConn.
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Post by floridafan on Feb 4, 2024 18:43:15 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more. Such a ridiculous decision to not open up a power 5 school's head coaching job to the best possible hire. Nope, not at this school with its pussy leadership. For the record I'm of the mindset that you keep all options open when it comes to anything in life, and I'm rooting for Autry, but this is ridiculous. In this situation they hire the 2nd-hand man to the guy who has brought the program down to the abyss these last 8+ years? Honestly I feel that Autry was a DEI hire with no care to see what else was out there. They've had those racial incidents on campus these last few years and it was all too convenient to hire the minority currently on the roster when there were multiple coaches out there with much better experience and acumen for the job. Look at what hiring outside the program did for these schools.... Danny Hurley @uconn, Nate Oats @alabama, etc etc.. Someone tell me another logical reason why you make this hire without looking at what else is out there, without interviewing anybody else? Sad mentality. it was about color - the color Orange. They hired the most qualified alum. SU has a special situation where so many former players are still close to the program. There’s only a couple programs with the same type of “family” aspect. Im sure most would rather win with Red than a dickhead like Hurley or Oates, too. By the way, Hurley went 16-17 his first year at UConn. so what I’m hearing is GMAC next hire?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 19:05:40 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more. Such a ridiculous decision to not open up a power 5 school's head coaching job to the best possible hire. Nope, not at this school with its pussy leadership. For the record I'm of the mindset that you keep all options open when it comes to anything in life, and I'm rooting for Autry, but this is ridiculous. In this situation they hire the 2nd-hand man to the guy who has brought the program down to the abyss these last 8+ years? Honestly I feel that Autry was a DEI hire with no care to see what else was out there. They've had those racial incidents on campus these last few years and it was all too convenient to hire the minority currently on the roster when there were multiple coaches out there with much better experience and acumen for the job. Look at what hiring outside the program did for these schools.... Danny Hurley @uconn, Nate Oats @alabama, etc etc.. Someone tell me another logical reason why you make this hire without looking at what else is out there, without interviewing anybody else? Sad mentality. it was about color - the color Orange. They hired the most qualified alum. SU has a special situation where so many former players are still close to the program. There’s only a couple programs with the same type of “family” aspect. Im sure most would rather win with Red than a dickhead like Hurley or Oates, too. By the way, Hurley went 16-17 his first year at UConn. When you don't open up your options you suffer. It's a fact of life in business, sports, everything. Limiting your pool to only what one considers "family" is ridiculous. Autry is hired and so be it, he should get minimum 3 years and I'm rooting for him. That "dickhead" Hurley has a title and is running the current #1 program in the country btw. If Autry can't pull a decent center from the portal next year will you still love the hire?
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Post by orangedw on Feb 4, 2024 19:19:27 GMT -5
Sad mentality. it was about color - the color Orange. They hired the most qualified alum. SU has a special situation where so many former players are still close to the program. There’s only a couple programs with the same type of “family” aspect. Im sure most would rather win with Red than a dickhead like Hurley or Oates, too. By the way, Hurley went 16-17 his first year at UConn. When you don't open up your options you suffer. It's a fact of life in business, sports, everything. Limiting your pool to only what one considers "family" is ridiculous. Autry is hired and so be it, he should get minimum 3 years and I'm rooting for him. That "dickhead" Hurley has a title and is running the current #1 program in the country btw. If Autry can't pull a decent center from the portal next year will you still love the hire? I didn’t say I loved the hire. I said I’ll withhold judgement, but I do understand why they kept it Orange and why that could be a major benefit….If it works out. Having Carmelo involved is certainly a positive. Would he be ans involved if we hired an outsider that he doesn’t know and possibly doesnt like? Again, dickhead Hurley had a losing record his first year at UConn. UNC and Duke have only been hiring alums. We’ll see what happens. I fully expect some uneven game coaching this year. I think he’s had some great games, and a few bad ones but his comments at press conferences seems like a guy who gets it. He needs better talent. Freeman/Moore is a good start and he did well to land Starling and Westry in the portal - 2 very highly ranked HS guys who just a year prior didn’t want to come here even though we really wanted them. I suspect this season would be going a lot better if Westry was healthy. Early returns are that Red can recruit, we’ll see what happens though. This is a big off season for sure. Realistically, nobody thought we’d be good this year except for Orange homers who really want to be good because we’re frustrated from the previous 7-8 years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 19:32:27 GMT -5
I'm not going to badmouth Red. I'm a supportive fan through thick and thin. I just got back from Boston where I went to see them at Conte Forum. I've traveled to the Final Four twice, the one in Houston by myself because nobody close to me could get work off or because plane tix were too much for them. I drove from Dallas to Houston by myself for that 2016 final four. I love this program through thick and thin. He got Freeman and Moore. Let's see what he can do w the portal and the center position. I think Bell, Benny, and Judah are gone. We'll need a lot of incoming to offset the losses.
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Post by orangedw on Feb 4, 2024 19:44:42 GMT -5
Sad mentality. it was about color - the color Orange. They hired the most qualified alum. SU has a special situation where so many former players are still close to the program. There’s only a couple programs with the same type of “family” aspect. Im sure most would rather win with Red than a dickhead like Hurley or Oates, too. By the way, Hurley went 16-17 his first year at UConn. so what I’m hearing is GMAC next hire? See that gets really tough if Red fails here. I don’t think you can promote from the same staff again. In that situation, you’d have to hope Hopkins catches fire these next couple years and then comes back. Otherwise you’d have to go outside. That said, being positive - let’s say we land Kiyan. Carmelo involved in NIL stuff probably leads to a big time class, and the program probably suddenly has major juice, buzz, and talent again.
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Post by djcon57 on Feb 5, 2024 16:50:07 GMT -5
It's always a good idea to hire from within from a team on the decline. And I like JB but you don't hire from within when you have a losing season followed by 17-15 or whatever last year was Couldn't agree more. Such a ridiculous decision to not open up a power 5 school's head coaching job to the best possible hire. Nope, not at this school with its pussy leadership. For the record I'm of the mindset that you keep all options open when it comes to anything in life, and I'm rooting for Autry, but this is ridiculous. In this situation they hire the 2nd-hand man to the guy who has brought the program down to the abyss these last 8+ years? Honestly I feel that Autry was a DEI hire with no care to see what else was out there. They've had those racial incidents on campus these last few years and it was all too convenient to hire the minority currently on the roster when there were multiple coaches out there with much better experience and acumen for the job. Look at what hiring outside the program did for these schools.... Danny Hurley @uconn, Nate Oats @alabama, etc etc.. Someone tell me another logical reason why you make this hire without looking at what else is out there, without interviewing anybody else? Do you believe Fran Brown was DEI too? If so, are you happy they made the hire regardless of reason?
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Post by hofceluck on Feb 5, 2024 20:02:15 GMT -5
It's always a good idea to hire from within from a team on the decline. And I like JB but you don't hire from within when you have a losing season followed by 17-15 or whatever last year was Couldn't agree more. Such a ridiculous decision to not open up a power 5 school's head coaching job to the best possible hire. Nope, not at this school with its pussy leadership. For the record I'm of the mindset that you keep all options open when it comes to anything in life, and I'm rooting for Autry, but this is ridiculous. In this situation they hire the 2nd-hand man to the guy who has brought the program down to the abyss these last 8+ years? Honestly I feel that Autry was a DEI hire with no care to see what else was out there. They've had those racial incidents on campus these last few years and it was all too convenient to hire the minority currently on the roster when there were multiple coaches out there with much better experience and acumen for the job. Look at what hiring outside the program did for these schools.... Danny Hurley @uconn, Nate Oats @alabama, etc etc.. Someone tell me another logical reason why you make this hire without looking at what else is out there, without interviewing anybody else? Ok. But FWIW Hurley was hired at UConn after Kevin Ollie fell apart. I know bagging on DEI is hot now but come on.
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